Prime Oscar vs. Pac, May, or Ortiz

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  1. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Even a prime De La Hoya was known for gassing. However, a faded ODLH was able to pick up enough rounds vs May to nearly beat him, so I think a prime version picks up the additional two rounds necessary.

    He keeps Pac on the outside more like Morales did until gassing and making it close down the stretch. Split decision either way.

    Ortiz throws wide and eats ODLH's jab too often. I take Oscar either TKO 8th round on or clear UD.
     
  2. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I'm of the opinion a prime Oscar and Shane beat both Pacquiao and Mayweather (though Shane does better with Manny and Oscar with Floyd than the reverse.)

    He beats Ortiz by knockout.
     
  3. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Prime Oscar wasn't known for gassing. He was actually known for his late rallies... such as his fight with Quartey.
     
  4. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oscar UD Mayweather, he would dominate and TKO Oritiz, but I would favor Pac I think by close decision.
     
  5. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oscar by KO vs Ortiz at any weight

    Oscar vs Floyd @ WW or above= Oscar close decision @ any weight below welter= Mayweather clear decision

    Oscar vs Pac @ WW or above= Oscar by KO @JWW or LWW= toss up @SFW= Pac UD
     
  6. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oscar prime was something to behold.
     
  7. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    Pacquiao TKO delahOya @ 140
    PBF UD delahoya @ 140

    Pacquiao UD delaHoya @ 147
    delaHoya UD PBF @ 147

    delaHoya KO Victor "Vargas" Ortiz at any weight.
     
  8. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

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    @ 135 Oscar beats Pacquiao and loses to Mayweather
    @ 140 Oscar loses to both
    @ 147 Oscar beats Mayweather and loses to Pacquiao

    Oscar beats the dog **** out of Ortiz at any weight.
     
  9. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd beats any version.

    Pac beats dela hoya at 140.
     
  10. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd didn't look great at 154, oscar was also ****ing huge middleweight in there.

    Below 147, 140, 135 floyd UD that ass everytime.
     
  11. Dipset

    Dipset Dipset4Ever Full Member

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    Prime De la Hoya beats nothing but past prime fighters....ask Chavez Sr...
     
  12. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Oscar has the jab to trouble Floyd, and even moreso in his prime, where he had great footwork, speedy combinations, good reflexes and great punching accuracy. He was taking advantage of Floyd's sensitivity to faints and habits of moving backwards in a straight line to set up his offense. A sharper, quicker Oscar would simply take further advantage of this and do more damage.

    Oscar fighting like he did against Tito or even Vargas could also give Pacquiao a tough fight and possibly a loss. Dude was just fierce and could go toe-to-toe with the toughest in his division or box and move really well.
     
  13. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    with lingerie or without?
     
  14. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    We won't know if he has some on underneath his cup.
     
  15. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Oscar KO4 Ortiz
    Floyd SD12 Oscar
    Oscar SD12 Pac