Prime Povetkin vs 1999 Holyfield

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Big Ukrainian, Aug 23, 2020.


Who would win?

  1. Holyfield by KO/TKO

    5 vote(s)
    18.5%
  2. Holyfield by decision

    8 vote(s)
    29.6%
  3. Povetkin by KO/TKO

    3 vote(s)
    11.1%
  4. Povetkin by decision

    11 vote(s)
    40.7%
  5. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who would win this match up? Obviously, that version of Holyfield lost speed, workrate and stamina comparing to his prime years. But he still gave prime ATG giant Lennox Lewis a tough time in the rematch
     
  2. The Long Count

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    Great fight. The 99 version that Lewis fought in their first fight struggles to keep up with Povetkin. The rematch version was better. Povetkin could win
     
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  3. Mendoza

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    Holfyield lost to some people that Povetkin would beat and had lots of sub par performances. It would be a good fight.
     
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Why do you have a pathological hatred of Evander Holyfield?
     
  5. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He hates quite a few heavyweights - Jack Johnson, Jack Sharkey, Joe Frazier, Evander Holyfield... I see no pattern to be honest, but he clearly has something against some HW champions.
     
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  6. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Povetkin belongs in the greatest to never win it convo. Couldn’t catch a break against Wlad and had AJ hurt. But basically beat everyone put in front of him. Had a strong resume certainly stronger then people like Wilder who seem to get more respect
     
  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I don't hate him personally, rather I see him as a PED cheater, a dirty fighter and guy full of excuses. Over rated.
     
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  8. Mendoza

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    Good post, agreed. Can you imagine Povektin's popularity is he was from the USA?
     
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  9. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Unfortunately they’re all cheaters now. I don’t think a single one of the top guys is clean
     
  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Holyfield took it to a different level with bio labs. The judges seemed to like him and gave at least two gifts his way ( Lewis 1, Ruiz 1 ), both should be losses.

    Cheating in the ring such as using his head as a weapon and thrown low blows was part of his game.

    I disagree, those who VADA test with public results are clean.
     
  11. Fergy

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    Holyfield by wafer thin decision. I can see him having to climb up off the floor at some point.
     
  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    So similar to Vitali Klitschko with the PEDs? Wlad with the Dirty fighting? Kovalev/GGG with the excuses?
     
  13. Mendoza

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    Vitlai always tested clean as a pro, his red flag wasn't hard core steroids, it was one of 100 banned substances for the Olympics. Some doctor gave him something to help heal an injury.

    Wlad is a clean fighter. Compare him to the field and its easy to see. Wlad a dirty fighter? Nope.

    GGG needs no excuses, just fair judges.

    I'm not following what you are saying about Kovalev, but IMO he beat Ward then seemed to have lot his will to train / got old.
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

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    So did Holyfield. Vitali popped in the amateurs.
    Have you seen the Povetkin fight? The Ibragimov fight?
    Those are excuses lmao
     
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  15. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Your post is embarrassing, really.

    If you think top level athletes are not doping, because they haven't failed an anti-doping protocol, then you're as thick as a plank.

    Lance Armstrong never failed a doping test in his entire career - go figure. Do you also believe that Nike and Trek had no idea what was going on and didn't have involvement?

    By your logic, anyone who tests positive must have used drugs for the first time, because anti-doping would have outed them had they used previously.

    Do you have any idea how many drugs have a half life of under 8 hours? Do you realise that "random" testers can only test between the hours of 8am or 9am and midnight?

    Do you realise how anti-doping agencies make money, and the fact that they receive "charitable donations"?

    Most of all, you are seriously underestimating the fact that sophisticated medical outfits are several steps ahead of anti-doping governance.

    Go onto the Routledge website and order a book, instead of living in Cuckoo land.