prime razor ruddock from 89 to 91 vs david haye who wins and why>?

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  1. energie

    energie Boxing Addict Full Member

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  2. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ruddock, he was big and durable and was the only guy who stood toe to toe with Tyson.

    Whenever he lands, Haye is going to sleep.

    I dont think this will go to the scorecards
     
  3. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll take Haye. Decision in a dreary bout. Slightly more action than the Harrison and Valuev bouts but not much.

    Too quick and too smart. He simply will not exchange. Ruddock will have to chase down the guy which doesn't help his cause 1 iota. He'd be far better off having a guy come to him than trying to land his 20 punches a round on moving targets.
     
  4. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ruddock wins, he wasn't afraid to fight and mix it up, unlike Haye who ran around the ring like a chicken on meth in the Klitchko fight..

    Ruddock UD..
     
  5. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holyfield stood toe to toe with Tyson and beat his ass...
     
  6. Azzer85

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    Not really, Holyfield outboxed Tyson and only really stood toe to toe with him in the last couple of rounds when he knew Tyson was throwing nothing but hot air.

    Watch the fight again, majority of the time, Holyfield was evading Tysons lunges, stepping to the side and landing 1-2s and pushing Tyson back or clinching

    Ruddock stood there and traded blows

    Theres a big difference
     
  7. energie

    energie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i agree:good
     
  8. mr. magoo

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    Donoven Ruddock for all his limitations was a man who wasn't afraid to hit or be hit. Haye wouldn't be in their with the kind of low output timid men whom he became accustomed to fighting during his brief run at heavyweight. Razor could both punch and take a punch, along with being far more youthful and better conditioned than a 36 year old Valuev or 40 year old Audley Harrison. Ruddock by KO.
     
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  10. fists of fury

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    I think Ruddock would provide Haye with plenty of countering opportunities. He just never really seemed to care as long as he could throw his vaunted Smash. He paid dearly for that against Tyson and while Haye is not on Tyson's level, he is quick and a decent opportunist.

    On the other hand, Haye never met a guy on Ruddock's level at heavyweight, Not one he actually beat, anyhow.

    I can see Ruddock getting dumped on his backside though by a quick counterpunch, and probably rocked more than once. That said, if he lands flush and clean, Haye would be in a world of hurt. He doesn't strike me as being particularly durable, and Ruddock for all his faults, really could bang. (And box, if the mood took him, which it rarely did.)

    But funnily enough, I do give Haye a chance, mostly due to his quickness and Ruddock's carelessness. Zadfrak said that Haye would not engage and I agree. He'd look to counter and Ruddock was never the most active heavyweight, so the pace would be kinda slow.

    I'd have to go for Ruddock ultimately...more battle-hardened and more proven at heavyweight, but Haye has a chance.