prime razor ruddock vs a massey ferguson 135 tractor at heavyweight how does it go???

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  1. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Every fight is dangerous, I know who the vast majority of experts and fighters would pick in a fantasy bout between these two.
     
  2. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Believe me Ali hit plenty hard enough when he sat down on his punches and went for it! Ruddock couldn't carry Ali's jockstrap. He would be totally outclassed and punished throughout the whole fight, wether he gets stopped would be another matter but he would lose badly either way!
     
  3. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Based off what?

    He couldn't knockout Tillis,Smith,Green or Tucker, yet it's an absolute given he'd knockout Muhammad Ali who fought the likes of Liston,Foreman and Frazier without getting stopped?

    :rofl
     
  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Mike Tyson that Jose Ribalta gave all he could handle would go straight through possibly the greatest heavyweight of all time???
    I want what you've been smoking over the holidays, is it April or am I missing something?
     
  5. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why are you so obsessed with power? Ali hit hard enough, that's all that matters. He understood that all you have to do is to be able to touch the opponent, the rest takes care of itself.

    Perhaps if Razor understood that concept, he would have had a career more in line with his natural gifts. But instead he swung for the fences with those big, booming shots - much like Foreman - and all the while Ali is conserving energy and just pecking, pecking, pecking away...piling up points, hitting hard enough to bruise and cut, but not knock out right away. But even dripping water wears down a rock, as Archie Moore used to say.


    Ali does not need a knockout to win. If it comes, it comes, but he doesn't need it. Ruddock isn't outboxing Ali, and his one-dimensional approach will be his undoing. No huge puncher ever beat Ali, and I can't see Ruddock doing it either.
     
  6. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If a dancing zombie like James Quick Tillis could give Tyson fits, what would the greatest of all time do to Rusty Iron Mike Tyson?? It would be like playing with a toy!
     
  7. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Exactly. Prime for prime, this is a VERY one-sided fight.

    Ali by UD or late stoppage.
     
  8. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think prime Foreman had underrated foot speed. Otherwise, he wouldn't have had so many KOs.
     
  9. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok your money is Ruddock, not a bad bet, the guy can bang and if he caught Ali he could do some damage. But one of the biggest mistakes many heavyweights made fighting Ali or a young Cassius was they thought he couldn't punch. Ali was that good he could dance all around and make his opponents miss. Most shots he would throw were not KO power but then out of knowwhere he would land one. Early in his career he did this on many occasions, one punch ko's. In 1961, known as Clay, Ali was in an even contest against Alex Miteff, a tough fighter with power, Ali knocked him out cold with one punch to the chin in round 6. He chinned another fighter called Sonny Banks who dropped Cassius before being ko'd himself. Don Warner a solid Philadelphia fighter was ko'd by Clay. Did you not see the right cross which layed out Foreman. Ali could punch, but his defence, which was his superb speed, movement and reflexes combined with his underated power were his greatest assets in his early days. When they faded he relied on strength and will power. However it was in the 60s when he was a phenomenal athlete and fighter.
     
  10. Borincano

    Borincano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Where does Ron Lyle fit into this? He was a heavy puncher and got stopped by Ali. He gave Foreman all he could handle. Could Rudduck have even get passed Lyle?
     
  11. G Man

    G Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    'Experts' and fighters are every bit as biased as everyone else and also scared of ridicule. The same reason music 'experts' will not say a bad word about The Beatles, which is why that crinkly old twat McCartney is still going, making songs like 'Nod Your Head' and they are lauded as works of genius..

    Tip: Learn to think for yourself, and don't listen to what you are spoon fed by the media.