prime razor ruddock vs joe frazier of 71 ???

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  1. Waynegrade

    Waynegrade Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great post !! Funny but incredibly accurate !
     
  2. frosty36

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    What a surprise
     
  3. Foxy 01

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    All very well, though irrelevant. So NOW would you like to explain EXACTLY why Ruddock couldn't just as easily drop Frazier early like Bruce, Bonavena, and Foreman did?

    And secondly why he couldn't keep Frazier bouncing up and down like a jack in the box ( Foreman style ) seeing as he certainly had the punch power to do so?
     
  4. Germanicus

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    What in there prime great fighter, did Ruddock beat?...remind me. I know he beat Dokes and Bonecrusher. They're certainly not Frazier level.

    Ruddock, turned out to be not on the level of a 73 Foreman or a 91 Tyson or 95 Morrison, as far as effective power or agressiveness. The 'smash' was his weapon, and wasn't to hard to avoid if your looking for it. Foreman for all his power, couldn't keep Frazier down. Ruddock, when bombed out by Lewis, was down and out.

    If Tommy Morrison can crunch Ruddock.... Joe Frazier, who is going to be in Ruddock's chest all night, is going to land his faster left hook on Ruddock and make him fight at Joe's pace. Ruddock would be sucking wind pretty quick.

    I always liked Ruddock. Going into the 1st Tyson fight, I thought Ruddock was going to KO Iron Mike. Much to my dissappointment, I learned Ruddock wasn't never going to be, who I thought he was.
     
  5. Wass1985

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    Ruddock might aswell as shouted out "fore" before he threw the smash, Frazier would make him miss and punish him big time. If the bum David Jaco could give him a panic attack just think what Smokin Joe Frazier would do to him!
     
  6. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This I agree with 100%, Ruddock was as predictable as the day is long, lol..
    GOOD POST!
     
  7. zadfrak

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    If you went and saw the guy fight live, it was even worse. Talk about dipping to the side to throw a punch. The guy was the biggest telegrapher in the sport. When he did throw, he fell in after throwing. then he'd have to re-set himself. And whenever he did punch he brought those hands back low.

    You can't leave openings like that and win. those are habits and traits of the losers. And he didn't win, did he? He lost big fights. And if he would have fought Evander or Bowe, he would have lost a few more. How about Douglas or Tucker or Witherspoon or veterans like that he never fought? not to mention his boxing smarts during a fight. That wasn't exactly another skill displayed by Razor either.

    I think he gets Marvis Frazier out of there and leave it at that.
     
  8. Waynegrade

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    Ruddock he of the iron chin dropped and stopped by the great Morrison... Brilliant post as usual eLrOy ;)
     
  9. Foxy 01

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    Jesus where do you freaks make this **** up.

    Joe Frazier used to get upset if a guy threw a punch and it missed him. I don't care who Ruddock fought and beat, or who he lost to. We are talking about him able to land on the easier to hit than a barn door from ten paces Joe Frazier.

    We all know that when Ali abused Joe on a personal level it was way OTT, but when he said he was pretty much limited, and led with his face, that was correct.
     
  10. Wass1985

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    Still didn't stop him kicking Ali's arse in the FOTC did it?
     
  11. Foxy 01

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    Can I ask you, how many times you actually saw Joe fight?
     
  12. Wass1985

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    Probably about the same amount of times as you
     
  13. frosty36

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    :think
     
  14. clinikill

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    Ruddock was more precise a puncher than Foreman and, in my opinion, hit harder, too. I think that dictates the fight right there. The only question is would Ruddock be able to survive the left hook that he'd undoubtedly eat? Based on the Tyson fights, I think he would.

    Ruddock via K.O.
     
  15. energie

    energie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    razor ruddock threw 246 punches in 12 rds against mike tyson....thats nothing/ with that volume he aint going to beat joe frazier sorry and im a die hard razor fan