prime razor ruddock vs joe frazier of 71 ???

Well done, you have managed to take IDIOCY to a higher level. It was Joe Frazier himself who said he didn't much care about defence. That no matter what the other guy did, sooner or later one of his hooks would get them.

He even boasted how he had a natural hook because his left arm couldn't straighten due to some accident he had suffered earlier in life.

And yes Joe was a face first fighter, with little or no defensive capabilities. You might ( though with your intellect I doubt it ) realise thats why Joe was considered an exciting fighter in his day.

 

Didn't do too bad in his career now did he to say he was as crude and one dimensional as you make out. He took all those beatings standing apart from when facing one of the greatest heavyweights and punchers of all time in George Foreman. Ruddock isn't in the same league as Frazier, only a dummy like you can't understand that.

 

It just gets better.

Game set and match, thanks.

George Foreman, one of the greatest Heavyweights of all time.:rofl:rofl

Out of interest do you rate him above or below, Marciano. and Dempsey?nut

 

foreman was undoubtedly better than razor ....and foreman was one of the greatest heavyweights. ..not the top man but in a top 10 list for sure

and razor was terrific...underrated.

 

came from elbows mcfadden

 

Wow! I never really considered how lucky Frazier was that Dave Jaco wasn't arround when Joe was fighting.:think

 

He boxed well enough to hold his own as a fat, slow old man against the modern era steroid fuelled super athletes who you put so much stock in. Old George wasn't a patch on Young George either except when it came to pacing himself and the only reason Old George was better at that was because he had only one ****ing pace at that age anyway. And the likes of Briggs. Holyfield, Morrison and Moorer still couldn't even drop him let alone stop him. Makes one wonder what havoc the best version of George would've wreaked in the overhyped 90's, let alone inferior 2000's.

As for ****ing Ruddock he made his reputation in two fights he lost and never had a worthwhile win over a prime top level opponent and was humiliated by a far from peak Lennox Lewis. Like Andrew Golota after him he's the perfect example of not ranking anyone too highly on the back of a losing performance.

 

I respect the old time greats such as Ali and Frazier in that they were indeed great in their respective eras and fought with heart. Ruddock fought pretty closely with Prime Tyson or as close as anybody could against such a beast for 7 Rounds and got knocked out then in the rematch Prime Tyson was unable to put him away and the fight went full 12 Rounds. Reason and logic would dictate that there's no way that ANY version of Frazier would've been able to fight closely with Prime Tyson and even survive Prime Tyson for more than 3 Rounds. So Ruddock could very well cruise to a decision win over Frazier or even KO him early.

 

Thanks for the input... I always equate it with Moore...Now THAT was a cool ring name, Elbows !!

 

So you don't agree that George Foreman is one of the best ever? You are a joke!

 

Ya he is a joke!:good Id rate Marciano ahead of him but theres no way in hell id put Dempsey ahead of George. Foreman is without a doubt an ATG! Top 10 maybe even higher.

 

Yeh he was sick alright, sick of the punishment the legendary David Jaco was giving him

There's only one ****** here and that's you! I said he's one of the greatest of all time not the greatest you inbred **** face. If you don't think Foremans one of the best ever I'll leave it at that:verysad

 

Why the hell are we even talkin about David Jaco!!? After what Tyson did to him Im surprised he even kept fighting. DJ is just about a big of a joke as ELROY is!!:hi: