Prime Razor Ruddock vs Prime Joe Louis

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  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Barrios is a bandit robber - Psalm 144:1 Full Member

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    What defines an undisputed champion to you?
     
  2. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    real hw meaning look at how he was built looks small compared and didnt fight like a real hw who knew how to use their weight in other eras

    so no your getting worst and no max would never make pro in 90s
    razor would make pro in max era
     
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  3. mark ant

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    Most olympiand don`t punch like Ruddock and Primo had no defense at all.
     
  4. 70sFan865

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    Baer was naturally bigger than Ruddock...
     
  5. BitPlayerVesti

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    You know who scored a disproportionate number of first round KOs? Joe Louis, yet he never KOed Primo in one, let alone with the first punch he landed
     
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    if you mean before razor got all that muscle maybe but we dont have any pics or video when he didnt so it doesn't matter
    we have vid of both grown and like i said razor is way bigger

    and moved better
     
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  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Baer always punched harder than Primo and Braddock would have beat the hell out of Primo, he was useless.
     
  8. 70sFan865

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    Ruddock was 6'3 with 82 inches reach. He was at his best around 215-230 lbs weight. He was 228 lbs against Tyson the first time. He was 230 lbs against Dokes. He was 215 lbs against Weaver. He also started his career at 180 lbs. This is how he looked at his peak:

    https://www.ringtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Tyson-Ruddock-AP-Photo-Bob-Galbraith.jpg

    Baer was 6'2.5 with 81 inches reach. He was at his best at 200-215 lbs weight, but he never weighed below 190 lbs. HWs back then trained down his weight, here is Baer at above 220 lbs:

    https://editorial01.shutterstock.co...-city-usa-shutterstock-editorial-6665030a.jpg

    How is Ruddock "much bigger" than Baer? They are basically identical height and Ruddock has around 10 lbs on Baer at most.
     
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  9. moneytheman12

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    see what you said he dropped down usually max was in lower 200s
    razor usually was in 240s
     
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  10. 70sFan865

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    No he wasn't, he was past his best at that weight. Ruddock was the best around 225 lbs mark, Baer was the best around 215 lbs mark.
     
  11. moneytheman12

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    your saying now which was the person in a better state at a weight in general razor was bigger is the point and moved better
     
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  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    240 at 6`3 isn`t a good fighting weight, he was the same height as Usyk. Baer weighed 210.5 v Louis.
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  13. 70sFan865

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    No, your point was that Ruddock was "much bigger". He wasn't, he gained around 10 lbs advantage over Baer because of modern weight training. Baer was a lean 220 lbs in Comiskey fight and he looked great carrying that weight.
     
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    where do you get it wasnt a good weight at

    a person can be any weight and height and fight good so thats dumb to say
     
  15. moneytheman12

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    he was way bigger he maxed in the 240s max never did and no max never looked good he always had a weird shape slouch like and old like

    Louis had a lean good genetics shape that most would wanna look like

    just cause a person is lean doesn't mean their body shape is good so why did you say that just cause max was lean that his body shape was nice
     
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