Prime Riddick Bowe vs Prime Vitali Klitschko

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  1. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No but not facing hard punchers means he never faced hard punchers!

    The fact that he ducked Lewis just adds to it
     
  2. Muchmoore

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    Hide, Cooper, Seldon, and Gonzalez were all hard punchers.

    Come on man just admit it :lol:
     
  3. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Have u not seen Bowes resume then?
     
  4. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    So little.:lol::lol::lol::lol: Defeating a prime Evander Holyfield in two of three competitive fights is so little

    Domestic puncher?:lol: Thats another great one.

    C tier fighters like Cooper and C+ tier fighters like Mcall were able to do some serious damage to some A and B tier fighters. :deal
     
  5. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    He beat Holyfield Twice, Cooper, Seldon, Hide, and Gonzalaz.. Much better then Vitali ever accomplished in his entire career. The one Holyfield win blows away anything Vitali ever done.
     
  6. Blood Green

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    Why do people keep bringing up Hide while forgetting to mention that Vitali destroyed him?
     
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  7. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Bowe may not have the quantity, but he has the quality(Win over an undefeated Prime ATG Heavyweight Champion Evander Holyfield)...
     
  8. SuzieQ49

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    Vitali would have gotten thoroughly beaten by the 1992 Evander Holyfield who got in the ring with Bowe the first time. Against Bowe? Bowe thrashes and outclasses Vitali.
     
  9. crippet

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    Thats the problem - You use Bowes best performance as his peak and benchmark of how good he was then have the pick of his imaginary opponents whole career to pick holes in - Where as Bowe is just suddenly shot when he doesnt do so well.

    Well How about we take just one Lewis fight as his barometer for greatness - say against common opponent Golota - That version of Lewis comes out and knocks Bowe out within 2 rounds any weakness's you say Lewis has just came afterwards when he was on the decline or before when he was still learning!
     
  10. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bowe. He simply does everything better. I think Vitaly would make it a good fight though. If nothing else he is tough.
     
  11. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's Bowe 24/7 for me who's a much more accomplised boxer than is given credit for here. He's a whole level up on the Klitchko's:deal

    I was 100%+ convinced Holyfield would handle him with ease & another of my predictable fight forcast ****s up's that bore the fruit of financial disaster for anyone & everyone that was unfortunate enough to be in my drunken vicinity in the buffet car on the London/Weymouth commuter line who lumped their $$$$ on Holyfield on my expert say so:yep I never had the balls too dare show my mug on that train again so got the later one in future after i heard my name was being scratched in blood on the buffet car walls:p
     
  12. lefthook31

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    Its one opponent over a number of years and that opponent was at his respective best and is an all time great.
    Fighting a puncher is meaningless in the way you some of you are making out to be. Was Bruce Seldon or Jorge Luis Gonzalez or Herbie Hide that much worse than Mike Grant or Shannon Briggs realistically? Not really, but Holyfield was leagues better than all of them.
    If you think fighting Shannon Briggs or David Tua was more dangerous to Bowe than taking on a prime Evander Holyfield, your nuts.

    BTW Bowe started to fade from his peak right after the first Holyfield fight. By the third, he was looking very vulnerable. Fighters dont fade overnight, and there is usually an clear path of inconsistency to see where it starts.
     
  13. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think anyone on this board would agree that walking face first into a fight with Tua would much more suicidal than walking face first into a fight with Holyfield - Ask Ruiz who had a tied trilogy with Holyfield. Or Moorer who went 1 and 1 with van
    But had one style overpower the other smaller guy whilst taking a hell of a lot of punches - He showed no other style of fighting. no wonder his peak lasted only a few rounds of a fight!
     
  14. lefthook31

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    BS, and Bowe could fight fat Tua just like Lewis did, if he wanted to. He was not just a brawler, and he never showed a poor chin, until his fitness started slacking.
     
  15. crippet

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    When has Bowe fought anyone like Tua and when has Bowe fought a different style???

    You are bestowing mythical abilities on Bowe due to him having a good style against Holyfield.

    Where were these abilities against Golota??? Oh Sorry we are not allowed to include that fight because he was suddenly shot then - We can just only go from a Holyfield fight where he had a massive size and weight advantage and still got hit countless unnessacery times.

    Boxing is about adapting to different styles - NOT taking advantage of one style you are successful against then avoiding the rest, then hoping that some blind loyal fan would attribute what other great styles you could fight because you had one good night.

    Do you think that Bowe would have beat Marciano with his style of hit and get hit?? Marciano possibly hits even harder than Seldon!!:yep

    Bowe would have lost to anyone with Marcianos power and up not the Hides and Seldons of this world, but the Lewis's, Tysons, Foremans, Marcianos -Audley Harrisons.....oops sorry went a bit mental there :nut

    I would be curious to see how Bowe would do againt Bruno - I would favour Bowe but Bruno hit a lot harder than Hide!!