Prime Riddick Bowe vs Prime Vitali Klitschko

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  1. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You see the thing is. In the normal world some peak fighters are inconsistant - But in Evanders world, he doesnt lose in his peak against Moorer, he manages to suffer a collapsed left ventricle of the heart, which cured by praying to God I might add.

    This is very helpful to Holyfield fans who can cherry pick what his peak was and disregard his losses and bad performances as illnesses.

    How can his peak not be between beating Bowe and Mercer????

    Do you really think a major athlete can overcome a collapsed left ventricle of the heart and fight at the top level again just by praying to God - If your answer is yes I suggest you check out the WWE wresting for similar story arc's used as backgrounds to fights.

    Holyfield is an inconsistant fighter and he is a religious hypocrite and a very bad loser who gives out embarrassing lies as excuses because he can't bear losing.
     
  2. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    What does that make Vitali?? Who quit on his stool against feather punching Chris Byrd??
    The fact is evander DID have heart problems and it effected him in certain preformances. Evander may be consistent but so is Vitali. btw Holyfield won the first moorer fight.
     
  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I have seen this thread before. Bowe had two good performances in him, but when he was matched vs. guys who can fight back, he had trouble.

    Tubbs nearly drew with him. Hide hurt Bowe according to Bowe, and Donald made him look bad in a distance fight. Vitali by the way knocked both Hide and Donald out, so there is a comparison of common opponents. Want more?

    Lewis easily waxed Bowe in the Olympic gold medal match. Vitali gave Lewis all he could handle.

    Bowe was just easy to hit. Golota showed us this twice. I think VK would beat Bowe, and likely score a TKO.
     
  4. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, he lost it - It may be because he was cut midway through the fight or because it was his first fight with a new trainer - but it certainly wasnt the bollocks about a collapsed left ventricle - That stinks of bad loser all over it!!

    I sometimes wonder about the mentality of Holyfield - as a deeply religious man he must look out on the world and see the wars, the famine, the poverty and abject suffering of mankind and through this God comes to Evander, speaks to him, and what does he say??? He says 'Your gonna KO Lennox Lewis in the 6th Round' - So this God Evander prays to is surely just the God of self serving self indulging selfishness and not very good at calling fights either!!
     
  5. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    For 6 rounds...LMAO

    Vitali fought an overweight, out of shape, 37 year old far past his prime Lennox Lewis. He lost inside the distance. That was not the vintage Lewis in there. Not even close.
     
  6. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    AS you are entitled . :good
     
  7. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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    Bowe UD

    Prime Bowe is very strong and durable. Klitschko is also very strong and big but Bowe edges him in skills and offensive arsenal. That would be a clash of the titans.
     
  8. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You bring that up as though it's in some way relevent, yet hit the roof every time VITLAY getting KO'd by Maskaev is brought up :patsch
     
  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Lewis is a big man, who weighted in with clothes on. 256 under these circumstances if not to heavy for him. Besides, we saw the photos, and Lewis had very little if any fat, so put that idea in your attic.

    Lewis past his prime? Really, did he not have one of his best performances with Rhaman not to far from this date? I think so! Also, Vitali was not ready for the fight and took it on less than 2 weeks notice, but that is another thread

    Let's stick to the topic. You should be aware that I am very familiar with Bowe. Did you know he was hurt, and dropped in an early Olympic match, before Lewis destroyed him?

    Bowe was not very durable, and could be hit. His manager backed out of a fight with Tommy Morrison, and Lewis. I think his own people knew the reasons why. They did not want to match him with big punchers. A mere solid hitter in Golota rocked Bowe world, and likely did permanent damage to him.

    I don't see Bowe winning here. He would take a pasting.
     
  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Ah, it was only a matter of time before you showed up. You should be aware that Vitali had a leg injury, and pulled out of the Maskeav match in the amatuers. He was more concerned with defending his kick boxing in those days. Maskeav himself said the match meant nothing on ESPN. I'll take his words over yours. And we know why Lewis balked at the re-match.

    Bowe vs. Lewis was a high level match for the Olympic gold medal with both guys at 100%. I see a huge difference here.
     
  11. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought Bowe won the first round vs Lewis, and though losing the 2nd round it was a horrible stoppage.

    Bottom line is Bowe is way more talented than VK and at his peak the better fighter. Vitaly is tough and would make things difficult, but he would be beaten to the punch and taken apart by a better arsenal of punches.

    With all due respect, you want to use the Bowe from the Golota fight. I think these fantasy match ups should pit fighters at their peaks and in their best fights. In VK's case that would be a losing effort to Lewis. In Bowe's case his first fight with Holyfield. Jmo.
     
  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    If Bowe was so strong and durable, what the **** did those fights against Golota represent? When he was an aged, decrepit 29 years old (a sprout by modern standards). Did that pair of tussles against Elijah Tillery take it all out of him?
     
  13. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why were fighter like Benitez and Jermaine Taylor finished at such a young age? fighters simply age differently. I think its fair to say Bowe wasn't the same fighter against Gotota as he was against Evander, no?
     
  14. Mendoza

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    Lewis easily hit and hurt Bowe. Period.

    More talented? In some ways yes Bowe was, but Vitali never losses rounds to Tubbs, or gets his butt handed to him by the likes of Golota.

    Bowe was not much on defense, had a chin that was suspect to punchers ( An shot Holy almost stopped him ), and was not a smart fighter in the ring.

    Bowe had a 1 great performace vs. Holy, but I wonder how much of that was on styles. Holy edged him in the 2nd match, and the both looked bad in the 3rd.
     
  15. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's fair to say that Bowe had to fight in a different styly to beat Golota and it proved his inability to adapt

    No look at what Lewis and Tyson did with Golota!