Prime Riddick Bowe would destroy new "Ring" champ Wladimir, and this is why!!

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  1. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    haha, oh i've seen the whole thread and what the wlad fans did. and i'm right with ya. I'm just trying to bring it on back and make it a fair fight
     
  2. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bowe was never this behemoth that he is being painted. Having seen EVERY fight he fought(We grew up in the same area of New York, and had a minor amateur rivalry with him) and knowing intimately what he was like in the ring, I will say he was past it fighting Golota, but in NO way shot.
    He was not worthless in the ring, and his 2 wars with Holyfield far from ruined him. His own terrible habits ate and sat his own body down the crapper. He's too blame for the loss of his prime, so I don't give him a single pass as far as his Golota beatdowns are concerned. "Unprofessional habits" is not a valid excuse. Golota gave Bowe the beatings he rightfully had coming. Which is a total shame, because the man started all sorts of promising. He had a one fight prime, and in the prime, got overrated starkly due to how the man he was fighting handled him.

    R. Bowe was a mean inside fighter with a jaw and a mean streak. Holyfield electing to brawl with him was the wrong gameplan in every way. In this way, The mythical "Prime Bowe" legend gets seriously distorted by Holyfields miscalculation and subsequent manhandling. Bowe would've beaten Holyfield from the 2nd Bowe fight that night, I think, but it would not have been in such monstrous fashion.

    That said, I think THAT Bowe beats THIS Wladimir. Wladimir of the Botha fight or the Mercer fight is much more of a pick em. Stylistically, they dont mesh right now. Bowe could and would eat some big rights, maybe go down, but sooner or later, he would find a way to stick to Wladimirs chest, and believe you me, when he's there, he's tough to back up. I hit very hard myself and failed to do so. Wladimirs chin is so underrated. The man has risen from every knockdown, and would do so if Bowe dropped him. Riddick did not hit with ATG or even great force, just good accumulative power. I see Bowe winning something like an 8-4 decision, dropping a majority of the first 6 rounds, before Bowe works his way inside and sticks there decisively to pound out most, if not every single final round of the fight to win it clear. He would not stop Wlad. If he dropped him, Wlad would rise, as he has always done, and Riddick, being the reckless finisher he is, would be at his most vulnerable to the Klit right. Futch would see this, keep Riddick focused to a workman win.
     
  3. Toopretty

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    Wlad risen from every knockdown? only to quit on his stool. So why did he not finish the fight?
     
  4. Jorodz

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    :thumbsup:thumbsup right or wrong, this is a GREAT analysis. unbiased, objective and lays out a clear winner based on how he performed stylistically with an explaination as to why he would win. exactly what this thread needed.
     
  5. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He didnt quit on his stool, mate. He was stopped by the referee because the guy had NO energy. Thats dangerous gassed. The Purrity fight was stopped because Wlad couldnt keep him off and was getting pummeled.

    Wladimir has NEVER been counted out, and has never quit. The guy deserves his credit.
     
  6. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    Yeah dude. He was drugged. Duh.
     
  7. Metal Man

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    Isnt the fact that he was past it by the age of 29 a manifestation of just how bad his defence was.He took a lot of punishment in the Golota fights,nearly stopped in the third Holyfield fight and took shots fromt the likes of Gerrie Coetzie who Bruno beat with ease.Bowe was a fighter with big time physical frailties who was sluring his words by his mid twenties.No wonder he was kept away from big punchers.
     
  8. MagnaNasakki

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    I dont believe he was drugged, but I do believe something was wrong with his blood sugar, as he now says. It is actually the only way a guy can go from brimming with energy to totally empty. Body shots do not do that to a guy.

    That said, whatever was wrong with Wlad that night, was his own fault. Totally legitimate TKO for Brewster.
     
  9. Stoic

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    Another cheap artist has just arrived:yep.
    This has got to be racial.

    Why is this about a white European 6-6 240lbs. monster that scares the crap out of you?
    ..I think I know.
    If he was black...Well.:deal
     
  10. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    whoa whoa, when the hell did race come into the discussion??
     
  11. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good:good

    always amazes me how people see and hear what they want to see and hear:yep
     
  12. lefthook31

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    Good post, but I might add that he had a big advantage coming out of the olympics. Under Futch he became an excellent infighter and moved very well for such a big man. Better than his biggest rival Lennox Lewis ever did, and Lewis's attempt at learning any type of inside game had him becoming a master of holding. Wlad hasnt been able to master either yet.
     
  13. Toopretty

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    So he does not have the ability to recover when hurt? Oh, he was drugged or his blood sugar level was too low..lol. Wlad is diabetic now? Clown asses
     
  14. lefthook31

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    The bottom line with Wlad is he never learned how to fight. When a fight got rough and it wasnt a boxing match he was lost. Emanuel Steward like with Lennox Lewis is trying to teach him how to handle it. Since Sam Peter he hasnt faced a fighter thats actually been able to make him fight a little, but from what I see, Emanuel has given up on the infighting and is just teaching him how to tie up and lean on the top of his opponents like Lewis used to do. Lewis wasnt that great at fighting either, but he was leagues better than Wlad who cant do it all. Bowe made all his opponents fight including Golota, the reason Golota fell apart and fouled out even though he was winning the "boxing match" in both fights.
     
  15. MagnaNasakki

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    Eddie Futch certainly crafted Riddick Bowe, you are 100% correct. The difference between the two versions of Bowe is staggering. I was easily superior to a younger Bowe, and found myself outmatched a mere 7 years later. Riddick had excellent close range tools, and an uppercut that would absolutely ring your bell if it landed. Different between Lennox and Wlad is really their reactions to a fiery opponent. Lewis showed he almost always got fiercer, threw hard, and Wlad tries to preserve himself and keep damage to a minimum. Fighting in boxing is overrated, but yes, Riddick did is better than Wladimir and would have held his own in the boxing portion of the fight enough to clinch the win. Wlad would have been by far the hardest puncher Riddick faced, though, and Holyfield and Golota managed to hurt him. I'm convinced that a couple big rights from Wlad has Riddick in serious trouble, and thats the only thing that gave me pause.