Prime Riddick Bowe would destroy new "Ring" champ Wladimir, and this is why!!

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  1. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    I would favor Bowe over Wlad as he was just a better fighter period, but a Wlad victory wouldn't be out of the question.
     
  2. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bowe was a good heavyweight however he took to many punches and his career was cut short. However, he ducked Lewis so I am more than certain he would not fight either of the Twin Towers.
     
  3. lefthook31

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    Regardless of whatever out of this universe excuses you come up for Wlad, cant you agree, that he later went on to suffer almost the same circumstances in the Sam Peter fight? Isnt it clear that he has had 4 episodes of the same disaster in fights? Tommy Morrison had a similar problem with exhaustion and found himself on the losing end against similar journeymen and mid level opposition. Definitely a mental problem caused by pressure along with fatigue late in th fight, but it will always be something that will hold this guy back, and it will be exposed again in his career, even against this limited crop of heavies.
     
  4. Ilesey

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    What the **** are you on about you moron?

    I said that Bowe was showing signs of wear by the third Holyfield fight. Simple. I never said ANYTHING about the other garbage you are spouting. :deal

    **** me you are dull. :-(

    All I have said is that Bowe ices WALD. :deal
     
  5. Ilesey

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    The same WALD that was iced by a semi retired pro golfer in Sanders, stopped by a journeyman in Purrity and owned by Brewster. :huh
     
  6. lefthook31

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    Lennox Lewis was an excellent technician. He also had somewhat of a mean streak and cockiness that allowed his shortcoming to be exposed from time to time. His chin was not that great, and his willingness to mix it up at times, left him exposed to be knocked out twice and rocked by a few others. It was more Lewis total disrespect for both Oliver Mcall (he was too green at that time), and his lack of respect for Rahman's skill that led to his losses. Ive watched Lewis spar on many occasions, and he approached Rahman like he did his sparring partners, screwing around on the ropes like he did.
    Wlad on the other hand has a clear mental issue when it comes to being in a rough fight. He has absolutely no second nature reflexes when a boxing match is turned into a fight. The exhaustion comes from panic and confusion, nothing else. In all the fights hes lost including the Sam Peter fight, hes looked completly lost and confused when it happens, being transformed into a sitting duck. He managed to pull himself back together against Peter, but most likely due to Peters poor conditioning and one dimensional style that held him back from finishing Wlad.
    As I said in another post this condition is somewhat similar to what happened to Tommy Morrison when his opponent took him into the later rounds and showed too much resistance, thats why he could outbox George Foreman, but get knocked out by a journeymen like Mike Bentt.
     
  7. Drexl

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    And why didn't Lewis fight Bowe aththat time? Because Bowe was a ***** who knew what would happen, that's why.

    Bowe is one of the most overhyped fighters of the modern era (when compared to actual achievements) along with Sam Peter and Ike Ibeabuchi. He was good, but not great. Matched up well style-wise with Evander, but did nothing, -NOTHING- else in his career to justify the hype.


    Oh, and using Gonzalez to prove greatness? :lol:
    Doesn't work I'm afraid.

    In the pros he was KO'd in the first round by Mike Grant and Derek Bryant.

    He was a good amateur, but he also lost to such household names as...
    Ángel Milian Rivero (twice), Dieter Mayer, Yuri Jeromiejew, Petar Stojmenov (twice), Alexander Lukstin, Félix Lemus (twice), Arthur Laburda, Leonardo Martinez Fizz (twice), and Ulli Kaden.
     
  8. lefthook31

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    And your just a hater thats showing your lack of knowledge of fighters. How can you compare Bowe who fought his way up to the #1 contender spot and won the undisputed title against Evander Holyfield to Sam Peter????
    As far as Ike Ibeabuchi, I dont know how he was overhyped, he never finished out his career, but beating the best version of David Tua, and knocking out the elusive Chris Byrd at his best showed quite a bit of potential, more so than anything else that came out of the 90's.
     
  9. ramalinga

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    If this thread makes any sense at all, we have to pit the best versions of both fighters together. Clearly, Wlad had three bad nights in his career and could have beaten by many lesser fighters on those nights. The version of Bowe who looked slow and old against Golota would have been shot to pieces by Wlad, who is faster, taller and hits harder than Golota.

    Best version of Wlad against best version of Bowe = Wlad has more toolsto make it his kind of fight. Bowe's onlyreal advantage is the inside game, he would be face with the best jab and dtaright right hand he ever faced in the pros. he was knocked out with headgear by Lennox in the Olympics just with that combination. Bowe didn't have a straight punch and Wlad's speed is completely underrated.
     
  10. Ilesey

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    Agreed, but then you pick an apparent Bowe weakness and WALD strength. :huh

    Plus, I'm only responding to Russkie's Golota analogy as if Bowe didn't fight anyone else. :lol:

    You've also omitted Bowe's agressive nature and how Waldo reacts under pressure.

    The version of WALD that fought Sanders gets dealt a severe ass whoopin by Bowe.
     
  11. Lennoxian

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    Bowe is a Top5 heavy all time and this was his best fight.

    Wlad is on top of his game now, it would be a toss up.
     
  12. lefthook31

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    Your wrong saying that Bowe was knocked out in the olympics, did you watch the fight, he was stopped on two standing eights. Your right saying styles make fights, and when did Bowe at any time in his career stay on the outside with a fighter and just box? He always used his jab to get inside and throw power punches. Wlad has shown his vulnerabilities in four fights not three, and Bowe brings a strategic way of bringing Wlad into a fight, unlike the other four who recklessly when after Wlad with a brawling style and were far more limited than Bowe ever was.
     
  13. Drexl

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    Sam Peter fought his way up to the #1 spot as well.... twice.

    The difference is, he fought the best once he got the title. Sam would have held onto the belt too if he had fought the likes of Jesse Ferguson. I suppose you are right - I shouldn't compare Bowe to Peter... that's an insult to Sam Peter, who actually had testicles. Bowe hid behind the titles like a pansy.

    Bowe should be ashamed of even taking the Ferguson fight. Can you imagine a "champion" choosing to fight a guy who had lost NINE OF HIS PREVIOUS 15 FIGHTS!?!? How does a record of 9-6 get you a title shot?? Disgraceful.
     
  14. Drexl

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    :scaredas:


    Post your all-time top-10 please. I need a good laugh.
     
  15. Drexl

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    By the way, Gonzalez beat Bowe on points in the amateurs. Lennox stopped him.