Prime Riddick Bowe would destroy new "Ring" champ Wladimir, and this is why!!

absolutely. he was never great, but he did have great PERFORMANCES. in this scenario we are looking at prime for prime. the prime bowe is the one that fought holyfield in the first fight.

bowe will never be in the HOF nor will his career be looked back at with reverence. It will be looked at in dissapointment as someone who had the tools to do great things but only put it together a handful of times.

What bowe become and how low he sunk is entirely his own fault. If we were comparing, careers or hearts, than bowe would be blown out of the water by wlad.

But we are comparing their best performances, head to head in a styles make fights situations. We are not pitting prime bowe against wlad of purrity or brewster when his stamina and ring generalship were issues. it goes both ways.

we are picking the BEST wlad to. just against the BEST bowe. which happens to not be the one that faced golota.

 

But Wlad is, yet he has lost many more times against worse fighters and never faced anyone close to the level of skill Bowe had??atsch

 

Yeah? Bull**** too. :good

Also... Vargas took quite a bit more of a beating vs Tito and Oscar (two fights that he was brutally beat and knocked out in. Also killed his body by abusing steroids for the Oscar fight) than Bowe did against Holyfield. You guys are making these "wars" against Holyfield out to be much more than they were.

 

Honestly, there are quite a few people on this thread exposing the simple fact that they either have never seen a PRIME (key word here) Riddick Bowe fight...or that they have no idea what time period we are referring to when stating the word "PRIME".

For all of you that referenced the Golota fight...do you see that X on the top left hand corner of your screen? Go ahead and use your mouse pointer and click that for us all. Thanks!

Ok, for the rest of you left, I am going to attempt to provide you all wit a little something called "education". This has nothing to do with personal bias, or race, or nationality. I am going to use specific examples to help show why those singing the praises of Bowe, are actually doing so in the first place.

1- Someone on here said Bowe's upper body movement was "crude". Evander Holyfield was asked once what made Riddick such a great fighter...too which he gave the usual answers to, like power, strength, footwork, etc. (dont want to get too into it...because we will touch upon alot of this later)...but then he stressed how great his upperbody movement was and how tough a target he was to hit for such a big fighter.

Fact is, most people who witnessed a PRIME Bowe will all tell you the same thing...his upperbody movement from the outside was stellar for a man his size. Im not saying Wlad couldnt hit him, because with his amazing jab and accuracy with it, he would...its just, upperbody movement was one of the Riddick's best traits...and people are selling him far short here.

2- Ive also read that his footwork wasnt up to par with Wlad. WTF? Wlad is wonderful at setting a distance and using his outside foot to keep his opponent from circling too much. He is great at setting and throwing his jab and leveraging his size on that fantastic right follow. But how many times have we seen him off balance or out of position to throw once the real estate isnt what he is accustomed to? Now, think about a PRIME Bowe...how many times did that happen? Few and far between. On top of that, watch how Bowe leverages his shots with his feet...especially in close quarters.

3- I keep seeing that Bowe could not get inside against Wlad. Again I ask WTF??? Far, FAR lesser fighters have been able to already...yet Bowe automatically could not because Sultan Ibragimov and Ray Austin couldnt? Are you kidding me? Fact is, from the outside, Wlad holds an obvious advantage...he is longer and great at keeping distance. BUT, Bowe was a good fighter from a distance and used his outside game to close the gap to where his strength was...inside. And if the fight were to go in close, Wlad has ZERO chance at surviving. Riddick Bowe is considered by MANY experts, media, fans and fighters alike one of the greatest HWs ever on the inside (most have him top 1-3). The advantage that Wlad has from a reasonable space pales in comparison to the disadvantage he faces in close.

4- Bowe's chin was rock solid. The shots he took from Evander in those fights were just monsterous at times. And tho obviously Wlad hits harder than most fighters (ever actually...I rate highly in terms of power), the fact is, he isnt stopping Riddick with one shot. Meaning, with his great upperbody movement, his footwork, his shell defense (which was quite good as well) and his great chin...he is going to get inside eventually...and even tho it wouldnt be even remotely easy, once it happens...to quote Lennox Lewis...ITS OVA!!! Wlad doesnt have the huge strength advantage he does normally in this one...Wlad isnt that much taller...Wlad doesnt have the footwork or leverage advantage as well...so the thought that he could just tie Riddick up is laughable at best. If he did, he would get MURDERED by that ATG Uppercut that Bowe possessed and killed to the body like he never has previously.

I could keep going...but honestly, I hope some of this helped...because if I see one more post about the "PRIME" Riddick Bowe from the Golota fights...I just might lose it.

 

You really never watched boxing until about three years ago right?

 

Easy there chief, no need to get all touchy.

In my opinion the three Holyfield fight and the constant yo-yoing in weight took its toll on Bowe. There's not that much difference in Vargas and Bowe who had similarly hard careers and retired at the same age if my memory serves me right.

 

:goodand by the way if you'd watched the first and third holyfield fights, you'd realize they were WARS. as bad or worse than anything vargas went through

 

KO 8 Holyfield about 6 months prior....yeah just went all downhill in 6 months.

:|

 

Nah he is a former high school wrestler.

 

Wlad's resume is 10x better than Bowe's. You can't hang your entire career on matching up great against one top fighter. Is Hasim Rahman greater than so many throughout history because he knocked Lewis out? That isn't the way it works.

Wlad is ruling the entire division with an iron fist. What the hell do setbacks far in the past have to do with Wlad currently? If anything... they just prove that the theory of Bowe being finished because he had a couple of tough fights is complete bull****. The point is that Wlad is taking out top contenders, undefeated top contenders and World Champions... and DOMINATING them... one after another. The only reason that people think that the entire world sucks at heavyweight (which is an absurd way of thinking)... it because Wlad is so dominant over them. It isn't because they all suck... it is because Wlad is that great.

 

Your post is very good, but like me, you have been wasting your breath. There is just too many people on this board who have not watched boxing long enough or do not understand certain aspects of the game. They just think because he lost to this guy he would automatically lose to so and so, not taking into consideration timing, or anything else. Its a joke really, with the biggest joke being that Lennox Lewis would automatically have beaten Bowe because he beat him in the olympics, even though Lewis went on to struggle with Bruno and get knocked out by Mcall, while Bowe was going to war and dominating a prime Holyfiled.

 

You just proved my point jackass.:rofl