Prime RJ vs anybody all time H2H from 160-175

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  1. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who could beat him? I honestly can't think of anyone. Damn I forgot to put an option for nobody!
     
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  2. McGrain

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    At 175 there are a few.

    Foster and Moore spring to mind as locks. Langford (my #1 at the weight) & Kid Norfolk would both be excellent choices at the weight.

    I pick him to beat my #2 at the weight, Ezzard Charles.

    At 160 he's beatable by many but none are a serios favourite over him in my view. This guy in my avatar, Tiger Flowers, would make a very good fight for him.

    Many will guess at Greb, too of course.
     
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  3. BigReg

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    This should've been a multiple choice poll.
     
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  4. McGrain

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    LaMotta shouldn't be on that list. He has no chance against the peak version.
     
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  5. bronx

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    I think that at 175 you have people like Bob Foster and Billy Conn, that would have given him a run for his money.
     
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  6. bronx

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    and probably a young archie moore.
     
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  7. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was just naming anyone I could think of.
     
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  8. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Im not sure. I would have liked to see Jones fight Monzon with his long jab and great right hand, and I would've liked to see how he did against a swarming Harry Greb who was good enough to beat Gene Tunney once. Calzaghe and his awkward southpaw stance may have been interesting too.
     
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  9. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My bad.
     
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  10. McGrain

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    Five of the top guys at LHW:

    1 - Sam Langford. I think he would knock Jones out.

    2 - Ezzard Charles. I think Jones could mess up his rhthym, hurt him and dominate the later rounds for a close but clear decision.

    3 - Archie Moore. I think the all time KO king at peak would get Jones. Heavy hands, great smarts, just what's needed.

    4 - Gene Tunney. Maybe the most fascinating fight. I think I'd pick Jones in a close decision.

    5 - Bob Foster. Foster would KO Jones, long, lazer guided right hand, he's just the right man. I think he would beat Jones for something like 5/5.



    And at Middle:

    1 - Carlos Monzon. I think this one would go to points and I think it could go either way. One of those decisions that nobody could ever agree upon who had really won. Wouldn't like to guess at who would take the 2/3

    2 - Dick Tiger. Jones by clear decision.

    3 - Harry Greb. Who know? But Greb on paper has the perfect style to beat Jones. Granite jaw, lightning fast, no fear, massive, massive work-rate and punch output. No power though. Could Jones make that work for him?

    4 - Charley Burley. Jones wins a close decision.

    5 - Marvin Hagler. I think Jones could get around the corner on Hagler, frustrate him and hurt him. People maybe forget how powerful Jones was at this weight - tight points decision Jones.
     
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    The young version gets his head handed to him. See the Burley fight for details.

    The older guy is exactly the type of "Find a way" fighter i'd pick to get the job done shold my life depend on it.
     
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  12. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    At 175 Charles, Moore, Foster, Spinks, and Tunney all KO Roy Jones. Roy does not have the toughness or Chin to hang with those guys in a dog fight.
     
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  13. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime Roy was a freak of nature and is vastly underrated because of his losses to Tarver and Johnson when he got older and had to lose 25 pounds of muscle. The only reason I made this thread is to show how overrated old fighters are. Yes they are LEGENDS but they never fought anyone like Roy Jones.
     
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  14. Rico Spadafora

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    Roy never fought anyone like them either.
     
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  15. JAB5239

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    Good list with solid reasoning, but I question Charley Burley. From the limited footage I've seen of him and everything I've read Burley liked to throw one punch at a time. Its said his accuracy was uncanny, but do you really think he could keep the decision close against a man like Jones with those incredible reflexes?
     
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