prime rjj v prime calzaghe should not even be discussed in the same breath

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  1. route1

    route1 Member Full Member

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    but he beat hopkins with 1 hand. mecllend now that could have been interesting. but even nigel benn himself said that mecllened did not make him scared but rjj put the fear of god up him. i liked benn but i think he would have been tailor made for prime jones
     
  2. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    agreed
     
  3. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike Active Member Full Member

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    Kessler is a fundamentally superb fighter who has beaten some good opposition in Siaca, Mundine, Andrade and Beyer. He has the potential to dominate super middleweight when he gets his managerial sitaution sorted out.

    On the subject of Lacy, Calzaghe has simply ruined him as a fighter, so any 'lessons' he has received since the Calzaghe fight in no way reflect on the significance of Calzaghe's victory over him.

    Against Hopkins, he landed more punches, forced the fight and took less punches. It's as simple of that. It's hard to pinpoint Hopkins' prime, as he has evolved as a fighter to accomodate his age i.e. he has become far more cagey as he has gotten older.

    You're right Calzaghe did peak at an older age than most. I'd say the best performance of his career was against Kessler, at the age of 35.
     
  4. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    Benn vs Jones is one of my 10 top favourite fights that never happened. Benn was being polite...NOTHING put fear into that man.
     
  5. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I def agree Calzaghe is nowhere near RJ level! or legacy!! Prime vs Prime,RJ would have easily KO him in 3 rounds!!
     
  6. rickx1

    rickx1 Legend Full Member

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    Prime jones is beatable.
    Prime calzaghe is not.
    Calzaghe UD.
     
  7. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    Just cause he wasn't beaten, doesn't mean he couldn't be. He had flaws, same as other fighters, that could have been exploited.

    "then why weren't they?"

    Cause he didn't fight great fighters.
     
  8. route1

    route1 Member Full Member

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    benn said i am not scared of him but he puts the fear in to him to get really up for the fight. he did not fight great fighters in there prime full stop. i will bide my time with kessler. and i am not saying cal was not a class fighter he clearley was. just should not be talked about with the likes of rjj on an atg list. buts thats just my opinion
     
  9. RACINE $n00p

    RACINE $n00p Member Full Member

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    RJJ he was just undestructable in his prime, calzaghe's prime is no where near on the same leval
     
  10. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Message to thread starter - YOU made a thread about it :-(

    You say prime rjj & prime jc should not be mentioned in the same breath, it makes you livid.... so you make a thread about it ? :huh

    Calzaghe TKO4 Jones jr
     
  11. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    :blood....
     
  12. JonesHagler

    JonesHagler Active Member Full Member

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    lmao if calzaghe couldn't tko a 40 year old jones, what makes you think he could when Jones was in his prime. I know Joe wasn't exactly in his prime either but he was still very good.


    Jones UD or TKO easily.....


    Calzaghre hasn't faced anybody besides Hopkins, Kessler and Eubanks.....THE REST ARE PRETTY MUCH ****EN BUMS.......DO NOT TELL ME JONES FACED WORSE OPPOSITION THEN THAT, CALZAGHE'S OPPONENTS ARE ****EN RIDICULOUS. and to think some people on this board have him in the TOP 40 ATG....
     
  13. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    :lol:

    Im just ****in with him because its more a hate thread than anything.

    Jones likely wins a close pts decision but gets really tested IMHO.
     
  14. Brit Sillynanny

    Brit Sillynanny Cold Hard Truth Full Member

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    It's the demographics of ESB. Prime Roy could have played basketball two hours before the fight and worn a blind fold and KOd Joe without any trouble. Calzaghe never could avoid the right hand (RJJ, BHOP, Eubank, Mitchell, Salem, & Reid). He never had any discernible power (all his TKOs were against bums, fat guys, old fat bums, and sometimes by the intervention of predisposed refs). That said, Joe is a very good fighter but should NEVER be included in any list that includes Roy Jones Junior or other greats.
     
  15. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    dont be absurd