prime rjj v prime calzaghe should not even be discussed in the same breath

Calzaghe is one of the best counter-punchers in the history of the sport.

Hopkins was humiliated everytime he tried to attack from the second round onwards. Attacking Calzaghe is one of the worst ideas in the sport.

 

It is certain Calzaghe would have landed a lucky left hook on prime Jones if he'd wanted to, leading to a stoppage of some kind.

 

**** off noob.

In other news..yes prime for prime RJJ would beat Calzaghe.

 

So one left hook knocks out Jones when it took twelve rounds to stop jeff lacy? Even if they both faced equal competition in their primes(which they didn't) Jones looked like ****in superman while Joe looked pretty good. There's a reason RJJ was p4p number 1, where was calzaghe on that list?

 

Only took one to floor Eubank, I didn't see Calzaghe ever try to knock out Lacy did you?

Calzaghe was at least p4p # 3 before he retired I believe

 

You shouldn't engage with the posters that you know will annoy you enough to start arguing and getting childish with insults. You're just wasting your time by doing that.

The one thing that irks me on this topic as a whole is the sense that Calzaghe getting beat by Roy Jones is somehow a slight or an isult to Calzaghe. Some posters need to realise that however good Joe was, the very best Roy Jones would in all liklihood get a comfortable UD 9 times out of 10.

This can never and should never be stated as fact though as it never happened.

But yeah, DINAMITA why waste your time arguing? The guys who come on here know your stance on this subject so a dignified silence could do you wonders.

That said at least your opinion can be read without shaking my head in disbelief unlike some of these posters......as soon as they say "Calslappy" or "Slappy Joe" it's a waste of my eyesight.

I honestly think Jones wins by a UD but not as wide as the James Toney fight because Calzaghe by his nature would win a few rounds through work ethic.

 

Yes but that's a sensible post, unlike this "prime for prime JC and RJ should not be uttered in the same breath" ballix.

 

You said stoppage, Calzaghe stops people like Peter Manfredo not a prime jones. And Roy dominated the number one spot for nearly a decade. Calzaghe was top 5 for a year or two. Huge difference. Both HOF, joe is underrated IMO but Jones was that much better.

 

Erm I didn't say Calzaghe stoppage..I said RJ UD or KO. Oh and you might wanna go on youtube and look up a few early Calzaghe fights before saying he has no power. Early Calzaghe would have KO'd Manfredo flat out in the first few rounds with a neutral ref.

 

Oops thought you were the same guy I was orignally talking to. If you picked Jones fair enough. I don't want to take anything away from Joe either, although I do feel he primed later, maybe not quite the athlete as he was in his youth but had an outstanding boxing IQ.

 

Kind of the way I see it, too. I'd make Calzaghe the underdog, but still a live one. He had a habit of fighting to the level of his competition for much of his career, but when he was 100% focused and motivated, as he would be for a fight with a prime Jones, he had a very high ceiling as a fighter. It's a shame we didn't get to see it more often, but it's foolish to deny it existed at all.

Outside of the forearm smash, Calzaghe embarrassed Roy the same way Roy embarrassed most of the guys he fought. I find it entertaining that it sticks in people's craw so much that they're almost forced to always say "but Roy would've destroyed him in his prime!!" Well, maybe he would've- but even if that were the case, what happens in fans' imaginations is of cold comfort when the real live footage is of the ass whipping occurring the other way around. All the resentment in the world ain't gonna undo that. So, you simultaneously see this Jones ripped down to worse than he was (A shot Roy was still a top 10 LHW), and the old Jones built up to mythical heights to where people get offended if you suggest Joe would've landed a single punch on him.

 

Prime Calzaghe and prime Jones are the only two fighters (in the middle-weight divisions) deserving to be mentioned along side the other in the history of the sport.

 

Yeah because Hagler and Monzon were ****ing bums.

 

It would be silly to suggest such legends were bums mate. Put them in there with Calzaghe, Roy Jones or Mikkel Kessler at 168 and they have next no chance.

 

Hagler beats kessler. And to think he'd have NO chance against calzaghe is THE definition of bias.