Prime Roberto Duran 1977 vs Prime Julio Caesar Chavez 1987

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Richard M Murrieta, Apr 18, 2020.


  1. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

    22,635
    30,350
    Jul 16, 2019
    I do not think a single past or present fighter at 135 lbs could beat the Hands Of Stones, Roberto Duran. The only one to defeat him was Esteban De Jesus, on Nov 17 1972, in a non title ten rounder, Duran was decked in round 1, but lost by unanimous decision. On March 11 1974, he again was decked in round 1, but Stopped Esteban De Jesus in round 11, to retain his WBA World Lightweight Title. They met for the final time in Jan 1978, to unify the WBA and WBC World Lightweight Title, Duran stopped Esteban in round 12 of a masterful performance by Duran. Duran was champion from 1972-1979, with 12 title defenses. He was trained by Ray Arcel and Freddie Brown. Julio Caesar Chavez was WBC Junior Lightweight Champion and won the WBA Lightweight Championship with his stoppage of Edwin Rosario. Chavez loves to attack to the body with that savage left hook, as he applies constant pressure to an opponent. Joe Frazier once remarked that Duran had the eyes of convicted killer Charles Manson, when he fought, and it scared him. Roberto did have that mean streak in him in his battles. He had skills, he was a good counter puncher, and had a deadly right hand. I see Chavez showing respect early in the fight, but Roberto with a very lethal punch at Julio's heart begins to slow up Chavez and his effective counters begins to soften him up for the paralyzing Duran right. In round 10, Roberto connects with a right to Julio's jaw as he is attempting to fire his right hand, Chavez staggers backward, Duran steps in with a combo, Julio hits the canvas, tries to rise, then falls to his side for the full count. Roberto Duran was admired by many fighters especially Carlos Monzon, who used to converse with Duran by telephone after Roberto's fights.
     
    Reinhardt, Smoochie, META5 and 3 others like this.
  2. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,717
    8,936
    Nov 21, 2009
    Great!!!!!!!!!!
     
  3. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,648
    2,848
    Aug 12, 2012
  4. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,648
    2,848
    Aug 12, 2012
    I suggest you try following a differnt sport .
     
  5. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

    22,635
    30,350
    Jul 16, 2019
    Thank You my friend.
     
  6. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,648
    2,848
    Aug 12, 2012
    Nobody KO's prime Chavez, not even Duran
     
    Smoochie, autumn1976 and Bronze Tiger like this.
  7. Ike-Man

    Ike-Man Active Member Full Member

    878
    314
    Mar 9, 2014
    If anyone could it's Duran.
     
  8. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

    22,635
    30,350
    Jul 16, 2019
    Anything can happen, Duran was meaner and had that mental toughness, also skill . But I respect your opinion.
     
  9. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

    28,186
    33,849
    Jan 8, 2017
    I'll say Duran on points but Chavez drops him late but fails to keep him down. Great matchup Richard!
     
  10. BundiniBlack

    BundiniBlack Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,555
    412
    May 20, 2015
    Chavez throws straighter, more concise, more accurate and faster punches. Duran would often throw wide, unpredictable punches that could even if partially blocked could still do damage but more importantly would knock you off your spot so you couldn't counter effectively and he could control distance
     
    Richard M Murrieta likes this.
  11. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

    15,829
    14,575
    Jun 9, 2007
    Duran wide UD. Duran does everything better
     
  12. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

    6,495
    2,430
    Sep 23, 2007
    At 135.
    Duran had speed and aggression. Sometimes he'd throw looping and wide punches though. I can see Chavez having success with his straight right. Duran's tenacity wouldn't bother Chavez. Prime Chavez was P4P one of the strongest boxers in the ring ever. Tougher than Duran even. Chavez can fight dirty and his cranium is legendary. The in-fighting in this fight would be brutal. Duran's best chance is to catch Chavez from the outside with his speed advantage. I just don't see anyone hurting Chavez at 135. He is very underrated because of his later diva career.
    At 135
    The winners are the fans.
     
  13. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    24,093
    9,464
    Jun 23, 2008
    You have a lot to learn about boxing.
     
    Smoochie, ETM and Richard M Murrieta like this.
  14. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,293
    9,079
    Oct 22, 2015
    Personally, I don't see any lightweight in history beating prime and focused
    Duran at that weight. But Chavez would give Duran one heck of a fight.
    Duran by close but unanimous dec.
     
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2020
    Smoochie, ETM, RightLeftCombo and 2 others like this.
  15. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,935
    2,499
    Feb 25, 2020
    Durán was probably better at any department
     
    Silver, Smoochie, Reinhardt and 4 others like this.