Prime Rocky Marciano v 1973 Rudi Lubbers

Nevermind. I was thinking of Rudy Koopmans, he was considered to be the Dutch Tommy Gibbons or Farr or someone like that.

 

Rudi lubbers competed in the 1908 winter Olympics in the same bobsleigh as Jack Johnson, Sonny Liston and Jack Kennedy

 

Lubbers would beat Tony Tubbs and David Tua on the same night.

 

:smoke

 

you are taking the p***

 

I've enjoyed the entertainment value if this thread and have contributed to it myself. But being serious, while haven't seen this fights Joe Bugner was generally pretty non aggressive. Muhammad Ali though in shape was past his prime and had the tendency to play down to some of his lesser opponents ( see chuck wepner fight. ) And of course neither had anything in common with Marciano. Lubbers wasn't much bigger either. He was 6'0" and under 200 for most of his pro fights. Certainly no bigger than Walcott was and nowhere near the fighter. He was also stopped by mediocrities and never beat anyone of significant note. I think Rocky batters him pretty badly.

 

Its about a combination of factors actually. Otherwise a man like Mike White would do better against Ali than Marciano would, and I'm not about to say that's true. And as mentioned before, Ali had the tendency to play down to some of his opponents. How is it that he could absolutely destroy a guy like Quarry or Lyle, yet look ordinary against Lubbers or Wepner?

 

I am not american and must say I understand what you say, yes they are mostly the most biased bunch you can possibly come across no doubt about it but you are comparing Lubbers to the great Rocky Marciano, the heavyweight with the best record, best stamina, best chin and probably the best power and maybe the toughest heavyweight to ever live so I am sorry if I treat this as a joke but I cannot take this seriously mate, it's like comparing a Sydney club A grade batsman to Steve Waugh, one of the great batsmen in test cricket history.

 

Can you say ETHNOCENTRIC ?

 

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well you could,... sorta but are americans an ethnicity or a culture ? I would say the latter but not the former. Not all american fight fans are biased but thats usually because they never bother to look outside their own nations fighters, that's a fact.

 

I would classify it as being "****" rather than fact. But I won't argue semantics. The very fact that you make generalizations about a "culture" as you prefer to state it, says more about yourself than it does about us...

Good day sir..