Prime Rocky Marciano vs 2000 Mike Tyson

You don't see the humor in Jim Dean's post? He said 2000 Tyson would win because Maricano only beat midgets and old men. Yet Tyson is shorter than all of Marciano's well known opponents and in some cases older or only a few years shy.

 

Witherspoon may have taken a dive vs Smith. His home was also robbed on the same night. Since when does one loss bar ANY Tyson opponent? Tyson selected Larry Holmes opponents too. So why not Witherspoon?

Anyone familiar with the 80's knows Don King blackballed Witherspoon and kept him far away from entering the ring with the decades biggest Golden Goose. Witherspoon ( in-shape ) could have been Tyson's biggest test, as most think he was better than Bruno or Thomas.

 

Witherspoon goes out the same way Thomas, Biggs, Tubbs, Berbick and Holmes went out. Let's not make him out to be greater than he was.

 

2000 Tyson was very very faded and jaded, and already with substance abuse issues out of shape.

Lewis beat the living daylights out of his corpse in 2002- in what was a sad end to his career as a HW elite challenger.

I cannot see him even lasting 6 rounds with Prime Rocky.

 

so, he threw it AND his home was robbed. WHICH are you claiming was the issue for him... the robbery OR he deliberately threw it? Or are you trying to claim that he THREW the fight BECAUSE he got robbed?
And if you arent claiming some causation, why did you write it?

when that opponent fails to get into serious contention again. Although its true his court issues with Don King didnt help his case.

no it wasnt about tyson, it was about witherspoon, if he hadnt fussed up there'd be no issue.

 

Tyson easily.Rocky was too small for the modern heavyweight division.
in 2000 Tyson was 222 or more pounds.Ezzard was 185.5 and 192.5 lbs.By the modern standard Ezzard was
a small cruiserweight(a midget). These wins prove nothing and at least the 2000s Tyson could beat big heavyweights
like Francis 244.5 lbs or the 241.25 lbs Savarese.
By the modern standard Rocky was a very small cruiserweight (or midget) he looked like an ideal Tyson
victim (small,slow,weak, ,inexperienced - he never fought good or decent 220+ lbs fighter-,
and fragile).

 

Tyson at his peak was around 220-225 pounds. He was over 230 pounds in late 90's and 2000's. He weighted close to 240 when he fought Nielsen and around 235 when he fought Lewis. As Stewart said, he knew Mike will get tired quick because he gained too much weight. He's only around 5'10 so by weighted 15-20 pounds heavier than he's supposed too ,is going to cost him his stamina and speed.

 

Easily what? This makes no sense in regards the post you quoted.

"who only beat midget boxers and old men."


"Midget" is used exclusively as a slur to describe someone's height. Ezzard Charles is factually taller than Mike Tyson.

Tyson 5'10" Charles 6'0"

"Old man" is used exclusively as a slur to describe someone's age. 54 Ezzard Charles is younger than 2000 Mike Tyson.

Tyson: 34 Charles: 32

Some other victims of Marciano at least 4 years younger and over 2 inches taller than "non midget/old man" Mike Tyson:

Rex Layne 6'1" Roland LaStarza 6'0" Johnny Shkor 6'5" Carmine Vingo 6'4" Bill Wilson 6'2"

So? Marciano beat big heavyweights that weren't very good either.

Maricano is possibly taller than Tyson, so again, it's a hilarious misuse of the slur "midget" that only makes you appear very foolish if not outright delusional. Tyson is shorter than Marciano and most of his opponents, yet your criticize them as midgets.

"weak" "inexperienced" and "fragile" are pretty much the exact opposite of Marciano, who even by his harshest critics is often referred to as "strong" "smart" and "tough"

 

Stylewise, Botha was much more of a problem than Marciano.

Punchers have problems with movers, something Marciano wasn't and something which lead to him getting put to sleep very quickly.

 

Witherspoon should take that as a blessing in disguise because Tyson would have robbed him of his belt and his honour. And Witherspoon wouldn't have needed to take a dive as Tyson would have organised that for him.

Because the whole point was for UNIFICATION, as per rules of the tournament. WBC unifies with WBA and the WBA was no longer around Witherspoons waist.

Who got knocked out by Smith in one round?

Clue: Not Tyson.

 

Botha was fat and a stationary target and Tyson still had trouble hitting him.

 

I doubt Spoon's claim. He got his tooth knocked out and the fight is on film.

Bonecrusher jumped him at the opening bell, beating him into a shell, there's a right hand that clearly connects loudly and buckles Spoon just a minute in, and when he starts going down, Bonecrusher is loading up with heavy shots that are visibly landing and snapping his head. If it's faked, they should be in Hollywood, Spoon sacrificed his well being for art.

 

Botha was so slow and upright in that fight, barely keeping his hands up. He was evading Tyson with movement that frankly wasn't that elusive. Tyson was just **** in that fight, I remember watching and thinking he was completely shot, he looked awful in plodding after Botha. It's Tyson's worst filmed performance up to that point.

 

Watch the fight again.

Botha was anything but stationary, the one time he stood still, that's all Tyson needed.

And as I asked before, why is Botha being mentioned when Tyson fought him in 99 after a 2 year layoff.

The question is 2000 and Tyson was in much better shape during that period when he fought Savarese, Francis and Golota during that period.

 

I can see a TKO by Tyson in the early rounds,if an old Louis could floor him, imagine what Tyson would do. I am curious how Rocky would fair against Liston or Frazier.