Prime Rocky Marciano vs Prime Earnie Shavers

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's your prerogative, we can't all have the same opinion or else there would be no debates! I wasn't really disagreeing with you just musing out loud.If Usyk planted his feet more I wonder if he would get more on his shots? Of course he would get hit more too.
     
  2. lufcrazy

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    Totally agree with you there. We all have our own motivations and viewpoints for posting on here.

    I think he's the kind of fighter who can adapt to any situation tbh. He looks incredible. That being said footwork is his biggest strength imo. Everything he does is based on his footwork so I don't see him every truly planting to offload big shots.

    Usyk Vs Marciano would be an interesting debate and I believe it's one that would leave a lot of Marciano fans asking themselves difficult questions about how honest their viewpoint is.
     
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  3. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster Active Member Full Member

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    Alright the jokes are whatever but lets be serious here for a second

    If Quarry can bomb Shavers out in 1 round, then Marciano can as well. Marciano's chin is slowly becoming more and more underrated on this forum, yeesh
     
  4. Colonel Sanders

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    Haven't you seen what Morales looked like against Maidana ?? I think you wish I called it quits.
     
  5. Colonel Sanders

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    Because they can fill out more and a couple other reasons unrelated to the capacity to take a punch (for the most part).
    But that was not the question.
     
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  6. lufcrazy

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    Quarry is a completely different style of fighter to Rocky.

    That's like saying if Ali can bomb Liston out in 1 then Rocky can.
     
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  7. lufcrazy

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    So you think whenever a fighter adds weight, it is completely unrelated to their ability to take a punch?
     
  8. Colonel Sanders

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    As far as punches to the head are concerned, how could any weight gain that does not directly concern the neck muscles enhance one's ability to take a punch in the jaw ?
     
  9. lufcrazy

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    For one, who said we aren't allowed to train the neck muscles? Fighters do neck training.

    For another look at the curious case of Guillermo Jones, do you really think David Noel would have been able to knock him out if he weighed over 200 pounds as he did later in his career?
     
  10. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To be fair Ron Stander generally walked straight in and wasn't known for his defensive prowess (or his prowess at anything boxing related aside from toughness and guts) and he weathered Shavers early onslaught, broke his will and KO'd Earnie.

    I reckon Marciano who trumps Stander in every facet (in fact he was better than Quarry in most areas as well who also destroyed Earnie) absorbs and nullifies the early rounds punishment Shavers dishes out before wearing him down and knocking out the badly fatigued Shavers.

    Of course your scenario is feasible as well but I think any scenario with Marciano winning is far more likely.
     
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  11. Jel

    Jel Active Member Full Member

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    Is it redundant to say Shavers has a puncher's chance here..?

    I pick Marciano because he had better durability and better stamina. Shavers would naturally be a huge danger in the early rounds so if he landed one of his bombs on Marciano's chin it could be good night.

    Shavers was a devastating one punch hitter but not as great a finisher as he might have been against top quality opposition. I see Marciano, like Holmes and Ali, being able to somehow weather the storm even if he was hurt, and then battle back before flattening an exhausted Shavers around the 5th round.
     
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  12. Colonel Sanders

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    You and McVey come back at me with questions instead of answering my own.
     
  13. Colonel Sanders

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    Tyson Fury was 400 lbs not so long ago. I imagine it made him unknockoutable. He should have showed up for the fight at that wieght, he wouldn't have been knocked down twice then.
     
  14. West of Hollywood

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    Somewhat unrelated comment but I really believe the version of Jersey Joe Walcott who fought Marciano the first time could get rid of Shavers in one or two rounds.
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    Here's the pivotal question - Do you think the 160 pound version of Toney would have been able to take the heavyweight punches as well as the 230 pound version?
     

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