Prime Rocky Marciano vs Prime Earnie Shavers

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  1. Colonel Sanders

    Colonel Sanders NSB defector Full Member

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    See my posts above.
     
  2. lufcrazy

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    You was putting a limitation on my original point that I hadn't stipulated. I never once said a fighter can gain weight but not on their neck muscles, that's a limitation you set.

    If a fighter does nothing else other than get fatter I assume it won't help them much at all, but if a fighter bulks sensibly, of course their durability improves.

    As I said Guillermo Jones was knocked out at 154, the 200 pound behemoth who campaigned at CW would not have been knocked out by the 154 fighter. I'm sure even you can see that.
     
  3. Colonel Sanders

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    You misunderstood what I was saying.
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Okay lets put this this to bed once and for all because you are being wilfully obtuse here.
    Morales was a past prime 35 years old fighter the only reason he had jumped in weight was because of age and inactivity I know it and you know it .Totally different scenario.
    I usually enjoy your posts but these last few have been puerile and childish. No further engagement from me here continue mugging yourself with other posters who have more time to spend on your nonsense!
     
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  5. mcvey

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    Crass stupidity!
     
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    He is being deliberately stupid I'm out.No time to waste on idiots!
     
  7. Colonel Sanders

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    Congrats, you realized something without being aware of it.
     
  8. Colonel Sanders

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    See you around :D
     
  9. lufcrazy

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    Yes when you said

    "As far as punches to the head are concerned, how could any weight gain that does not directly concern the neck muscles enhance one's ability to take a punch in the jaw ?"

    I thought you was putting an unfair limitation on the notion of increasing weight

    Jones and Toney are two supreme examples of improved durability with improved mass.
     
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  10. Glass City Cobra

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    Shavers broke his hand early vs stander by punching him in the forehead.

    ABC logic doesnt really work with durability and chin. Bonavena ate Frazier's shots all night in 2 fights without going down but the skinny jimmy ellis dropped bonavena and we know for a fact ellis doesnt hit as hard as Frazier.
     
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  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Walcott was a more accurate puncher. But supposing Shavers landed flush, yes I would
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    In my universe Marciano was a defensive wizard and Jess Willard would bludgeon a young Mike Tyson to the canvas in 1
     
  14. Seamus

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    Your universe ain't the kind of place to raise your kids
    In fact it's cold as hell
    And there's no one there to raise them if you did
     
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  15. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    And you didn't invite me.....I'm wounded
     
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