Prime Rocky Marciano vs Prime George Chuvalo

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Could 1952 Marciano beat 1965 George Chuvalo or would Chuvalo be too strong?
     
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  2. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Chuvalo would be a hard fight for Marciano.
     
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  3. JWSoats

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    A rough, hard fight but Rocky wins on his superior hitting power. Probably goes the limit with no knockdowns.
     
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  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Rocky isn't flooring Chuvalo. I'm sure of that.

    But Frazier was able to bully him despite being smaller and lighter, I think Rocky wins in a similar fashion.
     
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  5. Fergy

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    The Rock gets a decision over him, in a lot tougher fight than expected.
     
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  6. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Frazier never ever did "bully" Chuvalo. Chuvalo to me looked the bigger stronger man , simply the stamina and work rate of Joe was Superhuman, btw, Marciano was 20 pounds smaller than Frazier,he would look very small next to the big boned Chuvalo
     
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  7. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rocky by decision or late TKO.
     
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  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Overwhelming someone with workrate and stamina is the same as bullying imo.

    Tomato, tomato.
     
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  9. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No it is not
     
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  10. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    14 lbs between Charles Marciano and Chuvalo Frazier. Not that huge of a difference to me.
     
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  11. mcvey

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    Frazier was quite a bit quicker than Rocky,he was also 20lbs heavier,in an inside mauling slug that weight is significant .Frazier was giving George 12lbs Rocky would be conceding 27lbs,thats a lot of weight for a swarmer to give away, especially against a guy as strong and durable as Chuvalo.I pick Rocky but he would have a tough nights work in front of him and it would go the distance.
     
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  12. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Marciano in his prime weighed 185 and Frazier 206. Sometimes Frazier was a little above 206 and Rocky a little above 185, but ALWAYS 20 pounds of difference so stop your crap of manipulating and cherry picking
     
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    27lbs between Chuvalo of the Frazier fight and Rocky's average 185lbs.
     
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  14. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I picked Charles fights for Marciano, because he was at his peak then and compared it to Frazier's weight against Chuvalo. How do I cherry pick and manipulate here? Frazier wasn't 206 lbs against Chuvalo.
     
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  15. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True, but Chuvalo lost to:

    Howard King - 187 lbs
    Pat McMurty - 189 lb
    Zora Folley - 200 lbs
    Floyd Patterson - 197 lbs
    Eduardo Corletti - 191 lbs
    Jimmy Ellis - 191 lbs

    You don't need to be big to beat Chuvalo.
     
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