Prime Roy Jones Jr Goes Through Sugar Ray Robinson's Resume Undefeated

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  1. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    go back to reading old articles on fights that you haven't even seen and stop pretending that you know what you're talking about.
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Oh the irony!

    You talk the biggest load of ****!

    Why don't you elaborate on what you've said in your hate filled rant?

    He was a fraud?

    He AVOIDED all of the biggest challengers?

    He was mentally weak?

    Let's debate it then.

    Back up what you've said.

    Give me some examples and some evidence.


    Your posts are embarrassing to read. :good
     
  3. smallsteps

    smallsteps Member Full Member

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    Imagine how good SRR would Have been if he was as juiced up as RJJ:happy
     
  4. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    What a well thought out thread. So Robinson goes so many years undefeated at Welter, and is forced to go up to Middle to fight bigger men than him just to get fights and money.

    And some Jones freak says the 175 pounder would have beaten all of SRR's opponents. Give yourself a biscuit for having such wonderful insight.
     
  5. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It is hard to compare people from different eras, but a prime Roy Jones Jr was unlike anything I have ever seen. It is hard to imagine him losing to anybody from any era.
     
  6. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well yeah, because they got paid ****. I think Sugar Ray Robinson was quoted as saying of course he would have fought once a year if he got paid as what the current guys do.
     
  7. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he was a fraud. he shouted his mouth off about being the best but failed to get into the ring with them. they were willing to fight him, but Jones didn't want anything to do with them. Mcclellan scared him half to death. Benn was the only one who was willing to fight him back then. but you wouldn't know that because you weren't watching boxing back then.
    he refused to fight Benn after the Mcclellan fight as well. made his excuses as usual.

    mentally weak? damn right he was. when you avoid all the best around, that indicates that there is something not right with the mans confidence. plus, did you see the huge drop in confidence and performance after he got stopped by Tarver? Johnson put some pressure on him and he broke down. he stayed on the ropes for most of the fight because Johnson scared him that much his legs were like jelly. it got much worse after that. and it was because of his mental weakness.

    take this truth, and shove it up your arse. your delusions of what happened bored me a long time ago. and as for you claiming it to be irony about you getting your boxing knowledge from old articles from the internet, is bull****. i watched boxing back then. i saw what was going on at the time. unlike you.
     
  8. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    On the contrary, regardless of Gavilan's chin, at 147 Roy would spark him at 160.
     
  9. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    wat


    you can't match them up p4p, because then you'd be matching an amateur Roy vs pro legends. Styles change as fighters move up in weight
     
  10. tennis

    tennis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roy would ko SRR in 30 seconds
     
  11. Box702

    Box702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :huh Damn I respect Roy & don't deny his amazing talent but couldn't get through his own resume undefeated he's suppose to beat 10 atg & go through 200 guys undefeated?:lol: what you smoking bro I need some of that.Are you talking about the juiced version as well or without it?........It really wouldn't matter honestly cause nobody ever would.
     
  12. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's only one Ray Robinson.

    The funny thing is his prime wasn't even at MW, he essentially had to go up to MW because NO ONE wanted to fight him at WW.

    At 147 he was invincible, but since the Mafia ran boxing back than, he was pretty much the most avoided boxer in any weight class back than.

    Off the top of my head, I think he only lost once at 147 to Jake, but had 5 victories over him at higher weights. RObinson's resume is just out of this world because most of the HOF'ers he beat he took them on at naturally higher weights.

    If he could've found goood enough opposition that was WILLING to fight him, he probably would've stayed at 147 for longer.

    I love Roy Jones and in his prime he was quite possibly the greatest athlete in boxing history. He was so unconventional and so unorthodox that he could beat an opponent in so many different ways. also had KO power in both hands. But his athleticism is what made him the greatest boxer of the 90's.

    RObinson was the greatest Welterweight and Middleweight of all time. It's very hard to argue that he's not king of 2 divisions which boasts some incredible ATG's. he's just in another stratosphere compared to Jones, Ray was a MUCH more complete fighter than Roy and I'd favor SRR if they fought at MW in their primes.
     
  13. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roy is SRR's equal in every way except resume. You just can't run up records like that these days.
     
  14. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    SRR is the greatest WW of all time, but he's not the greatest MW of all times. Monzon would beat him, RJJ would beat him, I'd favor Hopkins over him and make Hagler 50/50. Those 13 lbs make a big difference.

    This isn't a knock on SRR. WW, imho, is historically much more talent rich than MW and you need someone like SRL to even consider a fully prepared, rested and prime SRR losing at the weight.
     
  15. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    it isn't a matter of could he beat all those guys, but more like could he have the discipline Robinson had to fight that many guys.