Prime Roy Jones Jr. in today's MW-LHW division.

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  1. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What does Hagler have to do with this discussion?
     
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  2. ad4m88

    ad4m88 Active Member Full Member

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    Well roids will do that to a guy but I think the proper light heavys hit to hard and are too big for Jones to beat take bivol and berbetiev all day over him
     
  3. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Defending?? :lol: You answered it, thanks
     
  4. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Recency bias and nostalgia are as equally strong for people. It's easy to believe someone's better when they're the current era. The same goes for a fan's favorite fighter growing up. Being objective isn't easy sometimes, but it's truly the key.
     
  5. ad4m88

    ad4m88 Active Member Full Member

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    I think nostalgia runs too strong in this forum most react like it's blasphemy to suggest a current era fighter beats a old legend

    As good as Roy Jones was he has alot of has beens on his record and more than his fair share of loses to great fighters so why is out the realm anyone from today could beat him especially considering how big and strong and high iq today's fighters be
     
  6. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Don't get it twisted, RJJ was the man. That's not nostalgia at all. Recency bias is just as worst my guy. Depends on the fighter.
     
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  7. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Roy in his prime from the early 90s to naughties was the best fighter I have seen in over 30 years

    He would beat them all no problem
     
  8. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roy beats them all

    Canelo would be an easy decision, he doesn’t have the speed to keep up with Roy
     
  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Fair enough but Bivol moves his head after jabbing while Hill didn`t so was easy to counter.
     
  10. Tomatron

    Tomatron Member Full Member

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    In a twilight zone version of the universe they are favourite to beat Roy, in any other reality Roy is odds on favourite to beat both of those two, Bivol and Beterbiev are good operators, but there are levels to this, neither have a proven pedigree of beating anyone close to Roy’s class, I wouldn’t classify either favourite to beat prime Hopkins or Toney let alone Roy Jones.
     
  11. zicas

    zicas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime RJJ untouchable at 168 or 160.. y'all musta forgot
    175 lbs questionable perhaps
     
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  12. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    He misses, and uses the impulse to get out of the distance by his oponent's weak hand's side. His oponent has to pivot and loses the oportunity to counter after dodging.

    Flawless. We cant hit every punch sometimes we miss, that's unavoidable. Even missing, he did the right move.

    I have no words to define how stupid is to say that RJJ had bad fundamentals. GOD level of stupidity.


    Now let's see hagler
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    He misses the same punch, gets out of balance, instead of using his impulse to get out of his oponent's way he stands still, and is countered.

    another example of hagler overcommiting with his left hook, this time as orthodox, and being countered again
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    RJJ in your video does better than hagler in those both situations, getting out of his oponent's way using an angle, forcing him to pivot and avoiding the counter.

    Hagler throwing his body after his punch (something that should NEVER be done), and being punished with an obvious counter
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    Hagler's fights are full of moments where his balance is copromised by a missed shot. Exactly the same as any other fighter, including of course RJJ. Still, roy jones' choice in the video you posted was the smartest choice possible.
     
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  13. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    They're all way too slow
     
  14. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jesus Mark...You are such a casual...How old are you? 12 or 13 years old.
    Take it from the people who lived through it pal that he completely tooled prime Tony and Hopkins It's not cherry picking a second where he was off balance we're talking about his absolute prime...Do you understand you drooling fanny.?
    You won't get knowledge by just watching your boyfriend foots or whatever the fud he's called.
    You complete hack.
     
  15. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can honestly say I can not remember a fighter in his prime I would rather watch than Roy...His use of Angles and movement were a thing of beauty....They talk about ATGs but Roy in his prime was one without question.!!!!
     
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