Prime Roy jones Jr vs Bivol : who wins?

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  1. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes you definitely are missing something.

    Jones had zero fundamentals ?

    He dominated his division in the Seoul Olympics and everybody, including his opponent, believes he was robbed of a gold medal.

    Turning pro, he, for all practical purposes went 49-0 winning titles in Middlewt, Super middlewt, LHWt and heavyweight, defeating four or five ATGs in the process.

    He could have retired, at 35 with only a questionable DQ to blemish is record, a blemish he banished with a vengeance, scoring a first round KO over Griffin.

    (IMO, he could have ended many of his fights much earlier than he did. In fact, a good number of his opponents, he could have stopped in any round he chose)

    Had he retired after Ruiz, or even Tarver 1, he would be in a lot of folks' top ten list.

    Jones had zero fundamentals ?

    He was unconventional and did rely on the gifts he had, but he's very clearly and ATG, as other ATG victims BHOP, Toney, McCallum, Hill etc could explain to you.





    Like I said, Bivol is very good, even great, but Roy was better.
     
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  2. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bivol is too pillow fisted for a generational talent like RJJ.
     
  3. turbotime

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  4. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime RJJ was the closest thing to unbeatable that I've seen in a boxing ring.
     
  5. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Now, BETERBIEV vs Jones might be a different story.
     
  6. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The disprespect of near peak RJJ (175 lbs) is becoming criminal.
    RJJ makes Bivol look like a nobody and everyone would complain he fought nobody.
    Are all the haters of RJJ only newbies (sans Zakman) and never saw his peak/prime?
    PEAK RJJ was in the argument for da GOAT, like MJ, Woods, level.
     
  7. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Two points:

    The Roy who lost to Calzaghe was well past prime.

    I don't think Bivol has no chance.
    Somebody that good ALWAYS has a chance.

    But watch Roy's LHW fights.

    Bivol has a small chance.
     
  8. BCS8

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    Fair point

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  9. monaim

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    Has RJJ ever fight against an eastern europe style boxer??