Prime Roy Jones vs Prime Joe Calzaghe Who Wins and Why?

So Jones fights 1 very good S/Middleweight in Toney, and 6 piles of sh it, and he is the best 168 fighter ever. Only in Jones fan boy LaLa land could this be dreamed up.

It's such a shame for you girls that Calzaghe never ended up like this really isn't it? Then you would definitely have something to crow about.

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Roy wins but not with a knockout. It probably looks like his bouts with Toney or Hopkins.

 

Calzaghe still wins. 46-0. No blueprint.

 

It's Jones Jr's hardest fight in my view.

Calzaghe was evasive unlike many fighters, had great hand speed and decent power. He was a ring general and he could quite happily throw 1000 punches in a fight.

I'd have Jones Jr winning it, but it's not a TKO decision, Calzaghe has one hell of a beard having taken flush uppercuts and straight rights during his career.

Also, we saw a diminished Jones Jr get completely clowned by a diminished Calzaghe - that to me tells you something too.

 

Jones would ****ing toy with Calzaghe.

 

Roy by 11th round stoppage.

 

Joe was past his best when he totally schooled Jones. Prime for prime would still be a Win for Calzaghe. It would be closer like 8-4, but clean.

Joe's workrate would force Jones to fight at a faster pace, none of his throwing 30 punches a round ****. Calzaghe would give Jones an old fashion whupping.

 

Jones by 8-4, 9-3 type decision

 

Foxy

I enjoy most of your posts and you have some good ****ysis, usually, But, you have an obvious love of, and bias towards Calzaghe, as well as a hatred of Roy Jones. For what it's worth, I think an inshape, prime Toney would beat Calzaghe as well.

 

Joe was past his best,and Jones wasn't? Jones was nearly 40.atsch

 

i gotta take jones here. joe had the toughness and handspeed to stay competitive throughout, but i see jones landing the cleaner and harder punches.

8-4 jones with a kd along the way

 

If the shot version can immediately land and hurt you .. and this is a shot version four more years after getting knocked out cold by Glen Johnson .. then the prime one feints you out of your boots and knocks you the fuk out without breaking much of a sweat. Probably find him playing ball in a gym later than night in a late game kicking it with his boys ...

Joe never entered the ring with a superior talent that was prime so the shock would have been irreconcilable. Where lesser fighters could just get outclassed for twelve rounds Joe would have been unprepared for getting hit with punches he couldn't see coming or anticipate. He would have walked into shots that dropped him and took his legs away. Roy's pot shots were all devastatingly crisp.


But if ESB was German or Danish language primarily there would be a few fanboys sniffing Mikkel and Sven's trunks or chances similarly ...

Joe was easy to hit by pedestrian talent .. against a prime version of RJJ who was quicker than anyone at his weight and whose lead right was more accurate than Floyd's, Joe gets caught repeatedly and hurt by the kick and half behind it that stopped larger men in their tracks.

Joe had negligible power .. couldn't put on any muscle or he couldn't make 168 and by 175 he was what he was - a slapping underdeveloped winging wimp puncher that required attrition or accumulation. Calzaghe = pre-prime Ward in punching authority

There are obvious reasons why FWrren matched so carefully, there were so many British stoppages, and Joe ran for the door when he did (unlike Toney, Hopkins, RJJ, etc., etc).

Prime Joe dropped like he had been shot by a sniper when Salem and Mitchell landed clean.

This fight is a mismatch.

The appropriate and reasonable comparative for one of Joe's level is someone like Murray Sutherland or Steve Collins.

At least neither of them have exceptional physical attributes and extraordinary quickness - which makes for a plausible range of opinions depending upon how one sees their respective attributes interacting.

Thread question:
"Who wins?"


LMAO


Thread starter - what's next - Prime Marvin Hagler vs Prime Matthew "Mack The Knife" Macklin or Prime Daniel "REAL DEAL" Geale? Or, Prime James Toney vs Prime Scott Pemberton? Or, Prime Archie Moore vs Prime Clinton Woods? Try Prime Antonio Tarver vs Prime David Starie instead as I'm certain some of the same people would give David "Polio" Starie a great shout in such a matchup.

 

Joe clowned Jones Jr, absolutely no problem what so ever putting his chin near him - it wasn't the type of war that Jones Jr had been having and struggling with, it was a thorough out classing.

You sound ridiculous when you make it sound like Calzaghe has no chance against Jones Jr, being that he has the right style to challenge a Jones Jr style boxer. It really to me makes it seem like you don't know ****ing **** about boxing.

 

Complete mismatch. Joe isn't on Roy's level.

 

Dude, he can still be your hero.

I'm not going to embellish his abilities just because you dig his look or had a poster made up when you were a boy.

I've watched all of his fights. He's good (not exceptional and not without ample innate athletic weaknesses and flaws). I was at his second to last fight. I would be first to want him to fight every single great talent in their prime - no matter how it played out. I'm not a fan of athletes. I enjoy high end competition recognize high end performance. Abilities are what they are.

I don't care about their personal lives and don't care about their personalities. That is all irrelevant. He could be a murderer and I wouldn't give a **** as it has no bearing on what he is athletically. If there was ever going to be a "like-kind" talent with a chance relative to most, he would be one of those selected. No doubt that is why you want to defend him. Right? I wouldn't be rooting against him. He's just nowhere near exceptional or extraordinary compared to the best. I know great talent. I know great handspeed. I know apex reflexes. Like a 10.2 or worse sprinter today he's just not amazing. If you want to compare him to Carl Froch I'll point out his comparative speed advantages as an offset to Froch's specific attributes. You think he beats prime RJJ then you don't know your head from your ass.

Comparing him to RJJ in his prime is a non-starter. He simply doesn't have the athletic talent (and his "engine" in relation to being distinct is a late myth predicated on fighting old men) and his strength of decent handspeed is made worthless against one with extraordinary speed and exceptional quickness (i.e., RJJ).

There are several LHWs that have a basis for a case that they can overcome prime RJJ (Charles, Moore, & Spinks, etc.) but not Joe Calzaghe. There are dozens - if not many dozens of LHWs that would have been far too much for Calzaghe. More of a little frog in a small pond that gets bigged up by guys wishing for a like-kind hero. It's okay, that's nothing new under the sun, "PugilisticPower". It is ESB.

Sorry to burst your bubble.