prime Roy Jones wouldnt last five rounds against the Krusher.

Kovalev would literally kill roy. This isn't fair really, roy was a 160-168lb fighter he doesn't stack up to the true light heavyweights and kovalev is one of them.

 

It is clear DM beat the better version of Hill. DM was the WBA\IBF\WBO champion. Roy later collected the vacated/stripped belts. DM's win over Hill was more meaningful and better than anything Roy did at 175.

 

WTF!? Pascal won a couple rounds against Kov and Roy would win every single round. ROy would make Kov look like an amateur in there. Prime Roy was WAY too fast and way to tricky for a fighter like Kov.

Man, Y'all must've forgot!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkMAf0ZHO_k

 

Serge often destroys Roy's faithful. Let's be honest sergey kovalev only needs to land a jab, and this ain't a wild brawler we are talking about. He would land on jones and he would decimate roy.


People don't want to believe we have a great destroyer in our midst. Kovalev really is a h2h destroyer of all time. Maybe in 50years time people will look back at the lhw greats he will be a name mentioned a lot.

 

Yeah Kovalev is so slow, that he would not land on Jones, in what life ?
Kovalev is not the fastest guy, but he is accurate and fast enough to hit you.
This fight was going to be superb, but we can only assume what could be happen.
There is matches where its obvious who could win it, but this is not the case.

 

Young Terror,

First off, I'm not a nut hugger, I'm a huge fan. There's a difference. If you want an honest and objective debate, you can have one. But I stick up for Roy, because he's criminally underrated on here, and one of the biggest myths in boxing is that he took the easy path and didn't want tough fights. That's simply not true, and I don't like to see any unjust. Therefore I'll fight his corner, both with facts and logical opinions.

Now if indeed you were a big fan at what point, then you obviously weren't aware of various pieces of information. Big fights are hard to make for various reasons, and Roy fought lots of mandatory opposition in the late 90's and early 00's, because he represented three organisations. Did you see the Steve Cunningham fight at the weekend? The winner of that fight is now one of Wlad K's mandatories.

Now if you were really interested, I can post you links, excerpts and videos, that confirm the following information:

Chris Eubank wanted nothing to do with Roy in his prime.

A Nigel Benn fight was hard to make, because The Levin Brothers who handled Roy back in the day, wouldn't deal with Don King, if he wanted future options.

HBO who publicly criticised Roy on numerous occasions, publicly supported him in 1996, when he noted that he'd offered 7 figure sums to Hopkins, Benn, Nardiello and Frankie Liles, and everyone had turned him down, apart from Hopkins who at the time was considering the proposal.

Frankie Liles's manager Jack O' Halloran is on record as confirming the HBO interview from 96, saying that Frankie had a great fight lined up against Roy, but he blew it by asking for more money. He branded him foolish and then left him. He was angry, because he truly felt that Liles would have beaten him.

Jim Thomas was Evander Holyfield's attorney for 13 years, and he made all of his fights within that period. He states in his book, that Roy and his advisor called them in 1998, and asked to meet to discuss a potential fight with Evander. Thomas agreed, and Roy and his advisor Greg Fritz went to Atlanta to discuss a fight. Thomas notes that at the time, Evander felt as though he was in a no win situation, so he respectfully refused.

Kerry Davis - VP of HBO, was quoted numerous times as saying that he'd tried all he could to try and bring Dariusz M over to the States.

In 2002, Roy did all he could in trying to secure a rematch with Hopkins, offering him $6m. But Hopkins refused, and wanted $10m, even though Roy had already beaten him, and he'd have had to have gone down in weight for a catchweight.

After Roy had fought John Ruiz, Jim Thomas met with Don King and Murad Muhammad in the hope of getting Evander a fight with Roy, who at the time, had gotten Evander's old belt. They had numerous discussions, but Evander was pi$$ed at King's demands, and he ended up fighting Toney instead, for less of a guarantee, with no title at the stake. Again, that information is from Jim Thomas's book, and it goes into specific details of the upside of the PPV etc.


Now the above aren't my opinions.

If you seriously want the links, and you're prepared to discuss them like an adult instead of hurling insults around, then I will produce them for you.

Under different circumstances, Roy could have fought Frankie Liles, Dariusz M, a Hopkins rematch earlier, and Evander Holyfield.

A guy who was reluctant, who was only interested in fighting the Rick Frazier's of the world, WOULD NOT have approached Evander and offered Frankie Liles his biggest payday.

The reluctant tag is a complete myth.

Not at all, and if you'd read my comments on this thread and the others, you'd know that.

It's easy for you to say he should have gone there. You weren't standing in his shoes.

Did you see the video I posted for you, where Dariusz cheated both embarrassingly and disgracefully to get Rochigianni disqualified?

Why should the best fighter in the world, have had to go to Germany, to put three belts on the line against one?

The reason Roy has travelled recently, is because he has to. He's no longer in the position of power that he was once in. When you're 'The Man' people have to come to you. Roy held all of the cards. He was the top dog. Do you think Floyd Mayweather would go and fight a champion in Germany? When Roy fell from the top, he had to make sacrifices that he didn't needed to do earlier in his career.


Now if you want a serious debate, then reply back to me without the insults, and you can have one.


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You said that the only fighters who Roy stopped at 175, were bums.

You also said, that even then he stopped them late.

You've since clarified that Griffin and Hill weren't bums, which is fair enough.

But you really need to read what you've wrote before posting.