You're making a good point there about Toney. Well played. Then again I've never seen Toney taken out not once but twice by a crude tank like Frazier has been.
Left hook at 6:40 was sick.That's the kind of punch that does permanent damage. Anyone saying that Peter would beat Frazier simply because he was "bigger" is misguided. '68-'71 Frazier was a man on a mission who worked the body better than any HW in history. He also had a sharp, powerful left hook that he could land at different angles depending on how your guard was positioned. He was also one of the best conditioned fighters ever who possessed a will never seen before or since. Frazier all day every day.
Dont forget that Klitschko fans are the dumbest fans of boxing. They think skill comes from height and weight advantages. Peter must be better than Frazier because he was taller and heavier. In reality,everyone knows Joe Frazier has no trouble with caveman Sam Peter and breaks his face in 7 or 8.
The way Foreman destroyed Frazier shows that he always would have had problems with a big boxer with a good chin and power. Peter by knock out.
But How can He say Frazier got better Chin? That is ridiculous. Frazier would have been knocked down and out from the right hand landed flush on Chambers
Prime Frazier had an excellent chin. When he was stopped against Foreman, his chin had already gone. The first fight with Ali ruined Frazier and only a fool would think any version post-71 was close to the best Frazier. For those who don't know, that fight nearly killed him. I'm talking literally too. Fighters don't recover from that, no matter who they are.
I agree. i have read the story with Fraziers health problems during his career. Joe was unbelievable tough for stepping in the ring at those times considering what kind of condition he actually was. But Chambers had excellent chin as well. guy with shaky Chin would not have taken that punch Wlad hit him which did shake him pretty bad. I think he had better chin that Frazier.