Prime Sanders vs. 2010 Wlad

Good thread. The more I keep rewatching this fight the more I think about how good Sanders really was. I mean, it was a very good performance, but it's not something special, something like a Ron Lyle, Foreman, or Shavers couldn't do. I think Sanders is the last fighter to have very little fear of the Klitschko's and that I think was the main ingredient to his success. My bad, Lamon Brewster was the other. Wlad has improved since those losses and even though he's not as exciting to watch, he does what he has to do to win and gives it all he has and with ko's to go with them. Still, other than Peter, he hasn't faced a real puncher like Sanders to instill extreme caution and some fear like he does to most of his opponents. Giving him a taste of his own medicine. I think 2010 Wlad would outbox him and Sanders would pressure him like hell, maybe a flash knockdown on the way. Idk how Sanders stamina would be compared to Wlad's, but I think Wlad goes through hell and gets by a very close decision. Like Vitali, he's very smart and knows what he must do to win. Wlad by split decision.

 

massacre!

 

el, i think this is the best post i've seen you write:good end of thread for me

 

If you know the history of this fight then you know that this was a stay busy fight for Wlad. He was in line for a shot against Lennox Lewis and he was taking on some nobody. In fact, Sanders wasn't supposed to be the opponent. I believe they were looking at Owen Beck. They took Sanders because he was much cheaper. Corrie was older, wiser, and he knew that his only shot was to go right at Wlad. Wlad was over confident, untested against southpaws, and he knew almost nothing about Corrie. It was a recipe for disaster and it didn't have all that much to do with Sanders or his talent. Sander was a B quality fighter who saw his opportunity and took it. He'd never repeat it against a prepared Wlad.

 

2010 Wlad couldn't hope to accomplish what ATG Nate Tubbs accomplished.

 

2010 Wlad would KTFO Sanders. Wlad is a completely different fighter than when they fought over five years ago.

 

Sanders by KO4.

 

Agreed. I believe it's around 7 years now too.

 

my thinking is that wlad would be surprised when/if he takes a decent shot. i remember in chagaev fight, end of round 4 i think, ruslan took a shot right at the bell and it landed flush. not a hard shot but decent. wlad had this look on his face like "wow, ****...i took that". i think his chin is ok and if he took some decent shots from decent punchers, his confidence and chin would skyrocket. the pocket rocket said chins are 90% mental: you just don't let yourself go down

 

Wlads problem is not, nor ever was his chin. It is his legs. When he's hit flush, and moves to defend, his legs tangle, he loses balance, and goes down like an oak.
He just does not have the coordination it takes to fight out of tough situations, and that is why when he is tagged, ie Peter 2 Rd 1, he ties up, then regroup his feet, and goes back into stance.

 

i disagree, at least in the sanders fight. he went down, face first, HARD. he got tagged cold and hurt in that one

 

I agree for the most part.
Wladimir has matured as a much better fighter that knows how to negate aggressive fighters with good power. If he didn't know how to do that, he would've struggled much worse with Sam Peter a couple weeks back. You're right, Sanders's straight left would always be a problem. But as long as Wladimir could get his jab going, then the rest of his punch arsenal would follow. Sanders didn't let Wladimir get a chance to do that in the fight with him. Wladimir is a lot more adept at clinching now, and whether you like it or loathe it, it would be very effective against Sanders. Especially when those straight lefts would potentially land.
Wladimir would survive the early rounds, possibly losing some, then he would stop Sanders midway through.
Klitschko TKO 7.

 

Sanders had the reach and the feet to tag Vlad and the power to hurt him...His style, along with his wicked straight left would give 2010 Vlad the same trouble...The only puncher I've seen Vlad fight is the slow as molasses Peter...Sanders was fast and had great movement, a very good boxer puncher...Vlad would actually get tagged and I just don't believe he deals with pressure too well...Sanders KO2...

BTW, if I remember correctly, it was Lennox that phoned Corrie to tell him to jump on Vlad the second the bell rang...