Prime Scott Harrison vs Ricky Burns

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  1. scotchpieirnbru

    scotchpieirnbru Active Member Full Member

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    I'm not blinded, I scored the fight to walsh by a single point but could have gone eithet way. My scoring gave walsh any even rounds because I knew the judges would. If I scored with my heart I wouldn't have given walsh the fight, but this is boxing you have to take the politics into consideration.
     
  2. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's exactly what I expect him to do. I have never seen any British boxer have as good a career as Ricky with as little natural talent so fair play to him. But to lose world title scared to have a real go is sad and to smile at end, we'll tells me in his heart he expected defeat
     
  3. ChipChair

    ChipChair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think I've seen anyone say Harrison could have got the nod that night.
     
  4. Terminator_X

    Terminator_X Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Interesting.

    Everyone in Scotland wants to see Scott Harrison vs Ricky Burns, it would be a huge money spinner and 10,000 sell out but it looks like Team Burns don't want the fight?

    Can we officially say Burns is ducking Harrison?

    I think with a full 10 week training camp, Harrison would give Burns a lot of problems and there's no way a powder puff hitter like Ricky would stop Scott so it'd go the full 12 rds.

    I would still go for Burns via close decision win but Harrison may have one last great performance in him and pull off a shock win.

    TEAM BURNS SHOULD STOP DUCKING HARRISON and give the Scottish fans the fight they all want.
     
  5. SG77

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    It was a close fight I had it one round to Walsh but you could not have argued if it was gave a draw or even a harrison win. Let's not forget the totally one sided draw Burns got against Beltram. I would say that was more of a defeat than the Crawford fight. I like Burns and I am a Harrison fan but more than that I am a boxing fan and I feel short changed with the manner of Burns defeat, most good boxers get beat at some point in their careers but to get beat with a smile on your face and throw as little as he did was disappointing for the fans who paid the money. I doubt Harrison would lose a fight with so little effort put in.
     
  6. ChipChair

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    I've not disputed the Beltran and Crawford fights, in both Ricky was beaten with ease but we are talking about 2 guys here who are world level operators at lightweight, Liam Walsh is a domestic level super featherweight. I do agree however with your point Harrison and his effort level, he's as tough as they come and would have put in a huge shift when needed. I can though make a case for Harrison winning 6 rounds vs Walsh.
     
  7. SG77

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    I know mate, he could retire now with more money than any other Scottish boxer and fair play to him for that but the truth is he has been lucky to be fighting first a SFW then at LW in an era with no really outstanding fighters, who were the other SFW champions when Ricky was one? **** knows I would have to google it. That is why he has done so well, put him in with the champions at FW in the harrison era and it would have been embarrassing for him.
    I would say Burns just makes my top 5 of all time Scottish boxers but to say he's surpassed harrison and ken Buchannan is laughable. Not to mention Benny lynch who BN seems to forget about.
     
  8. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Couldn't agree more with everything u have said. Very rare for me to question a boxers heart as it don't get tougher, but Ricky's two biggest strengths were heart and fitness. His heart seemed gone in last fight, can't remember seeing a reigning world champ going 12 rounds and not hurting opponent once.
     
  9. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lots of people especially down South thought harrison won fight
     
  10. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Totally agree, Alex Morrison and billy Nelson have both worked with Scott and raved about him but don't want Ricky near him. Add to that the fact BN would have to pit his wits against his old mentor and Scotland's most successful ever trainer peter harrison it scares them too much. No

    Billy said Ricky had biggest gonads of any other Scottish fighter, joke
     
  11. Ryan the Lion

    Ryan the Lion King of the Jungle Full Member

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    Fair enough Billy, you do have a point, but iv'e got some "if's and but's".

    What if Harrison gets his licence back and what if the the board sanctioned the fight?
    I know Ricky would rather a title shot, but the Harrison fight is the biggest fight at domestic level.

    You know Ricky better than me, but i think he might struggle to get motivated against Crolla, but I don't think he would struggle to get up for a fight with Scott Harrison. In fact that fight would surely get Ricky's juices flowing. It would also make him a good bit of money.

    I also read on the paper last year Alex Morrison said that fight could likely still happen?
    The thing is you know what you get from Scott Harrison, he's good value for money and he wont let anybody down and the fans would certainly be up for this fight.

    This fight would bring different generations of Scottish boxing fans together. The "ones" who followed Scott to the "ones" who follow Ricky right to the fans of both Jim Watt and Ken Buchanan. This is a massive fight that would add a fantastic bit of history to Scottish Boxing..
     
  12. Terminator_X

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    Scott Harrison vs Ricky Burns would be an amazing night for Scottish boxing and go down in Scottish sports history.

    Harrison would train like a demon for the fight and get himself into the best shape of his life and at 36 years old he's still young enough to put in one last great performance.

    For anyone saying Harrison wouldn't be competitive with Burns, well i bet Liam Walsh would give Burns a very close fight and possibly even beat him now and Harrison only had a couple of weeks to prepare against Walsh and ran him close so can you imagine how much better he would be with a 10 week training camp?

    Alex Morrison and Billy Nelson need to stop hiding and make the fight.

    Also Harrison would get his License back in a flash if the BBBofC knew he was going to fight Burns so Billy Nelson needs to stop using this as an excuse for the fight not happening.

    Burns is no longer a World champion or any type of Belt Holder so this fight dosen't need to be sanctioned by any governing body except the BBBofC and Harrison is more then physically fit enough to pass every test they would ask him to take.

    MAKE THIS FIGHT HAPPEN AND GIVE THE SCOTTISH FANS THE FIGHT THEY WANT!
     
  13. TED 822

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    I would watch this fight if it was made,but am slightly ashamed to admit it.Its car crash stuff now.Burns could do him damage,so its a good job it won't happen.At his peak I would have slightly favoured Harrison,who I think was one of the toughest men ever from the British isles.I don't think he would have beat the Mexican greats around his era,but he wouldn't have been intimidated like Hamed was against Barrera.He was a very hard man,and Scottish fans would have been robbed of quite a few great fights involving him.Somebody suggested he was more idolised than Burns.The way I look at it if Burns was behind the counter of the sports shop you'd try to have a word with him.If Scott was in there buying a pair of trainers you'd go somewhere else,in case he spoke to you.
     
  14. Terminator_X

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    I'm sorry but that's RUBBISH.

    A powder puff puncher like Ricky couldn't do damage to an iron jawed warrior like Harrison. You are also forgetting that Ricky has had the stuffing knocked out of him in his last three fights and is already looking an old worn out 30 year old wheras Harrison is still fresh at 36 years old and the long layoff from boxing has given him his competitive edge back plus he's now clean and off the drink and drugs so he's probably in better shape now then in 2005.

    In 2005 Harrison would have wiped the floor with the likes of Ricky Burns and even now i would say Scott would give Ricky one hell of a fight and possibly even pull off a shock upset.

    Deep down Billy Nelson knows Scott Harrison is ALL WRONG for Ricky and will do everything he possibly can to stop the fight from happening and deny all Scottish Boxing fans an amazing Scottish Sports occasion.
     
  15. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What would he do him damage with? Certainly not his fists, lacks power. I think stocks popularity has arisen more to the masses since watching Ricky the lamb burns gift a world title as the punters no Scott would have thrown his kitchen sink at it to win a fight. Different level of hunger and desire in a ring compared to Ricky