prime sweet pea vs cotto now

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  1. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Ok, but we are not talking about a coked up Swea vs Tito we are talking about prime Cotto vs prime Swea. Tito also does not possess the ring intellegence that Cotto has either. When fighting a man of Pea's caliber one must learn to adjust and diversify their attack which Cotto has shown. Tito would never be as effective to the body and cutting off the ring like Cotto.
     
  2. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Calderon is just as hard to hit as Swea in his prime, make no mistake about it. Whitaker's offensive out put would also create opportunities for Cotto so this could work against him. Being southpaw with mediocre power would not help Pea it would only invite more brutal body shots to his right rib cage.
     
  3. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    He cut off the ring fine. Have you seen that fight? He hits Pea with everything but the kitchen sink.Cotto could not possably hope to hit prime Pea as much.


    Also cutting off the ring was not the problem with Whittaker, it was Hitting him when you got there. Cotto has not shown the skills to suggest that he would not just get badly badly outboxed.

    Whittaker would make Cotto eat jabs all day.

    Whittaker wide UD.
     
  4. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Cotto is actually the more versital fighter I believe his power is better, in my opinion the only edge Ceasar had at WW was his chin.
     
  5. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    http://youtube.com/watch?v=PD5rx0OdyDA

    Watch that. Then tell me Cotto would beat Pea.
     
  6. cpnasty

    cpnasty Fight Fan 83 Full Member

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    Whitaker would easliy win
     
  7. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well right there we fundementally disagree. Whitaker is an entirely different animal than Calderon, as great as he is. And Calderon poses no threat in hitting back. Whitaker fought stellar opposition, and they were unable to hit him despite his output and he certainly was accurate enough to keep them at bay. You seem to be greatly underestimating Whitaker. Chavez could not hit him with any consistancy and he was a master body puncher and great at cutting off the ring.
     
  8. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    i thought he beat jc chavez...but cotto is a totally different kind of fighter. chavez was great...don't get me wrong...but cotto is much more versatile and has faster hands and feet with more one punch power than chavez. chavez was a smaller guy coming up in weight. cotto is a bigger guy than chavez.
     
  9. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Yes but Cotto was not better at cutting off the ring than Chavez. Chavez was a better body puncher also.

    Cotto would not get near Pea.
     
  10. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Have I seen that fight :lol: ......I'll leave that alone.

    Part of Chavez game plan was to eat punches from Pea just so he can get his own bodywork in. Cotto's ability to box plus his footwork would allow him to be hit a lot less than Chavez. When has Cotto been badly outboxed ?????? I understand Cotto has not fought the caliber of boxer Pea was but to suggest he would be toyed with is totally unjustified. Pea's Jab was excellent but so is Cotto's timing, Pea would also eat jabs and more powerful ones at that. Pea found much success counter punching Chavez and mixing it up with his quicker hands but attempted to slug it out much more than he should have against Chavez. With Cotto if Pea used the same game plan he would find himself switching game plans much more than him and his corner would like thus allowing Cotto to impose his will in the pocket. Like I mentioned earlier I still give Pea the edge but in no way is this an easy fight. I had the Chavez vs Pea fight 116 - 112 Pea.
     
  11. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    i've never seen chavez disfigure guys the way cotto has. chavez was the kind of puncher that wore u down over the distance. cotto is breaking orbital sockets...cheek bones....and dislocating shoulders with his punches. chavez was good at cutting off the ring....but i think cotto is a little better at this. this is all speculation.....none of it can be proved...but based on what i've seen from both fighters....i've followed both careers carefully....i think cotto would do better against whitaker.
     
  12. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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  13. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    The fighters who have looked best against Cotto are southpaws. Also you do not DO NOT jab at a southpaw. Just ask Miikkel Kessler, great jab, tryed to Jab at a southpaw. Got hit in the face with a better one. Same would happen to Cotto.

    The way you box southpaws is how Hopkins used to do it, throw lead straight rights. There is no chance that Cotto would be able to hit Pernell with enough straight rights to cause him any problems

    Pea also badly outboxed Nelson. Who is a much better boxer than Cotto. Outboxed prime Oscar for periods. Outboxed well everybody that he fought till he was past it.
     
  14. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    So basically what you are saying is Cotto is a better fighter than Julio Cesar Chavez?
     
  15. Relentless

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    yup.