Prime Tom Sharkey vs Prime Mike Tyson

Yaegashi is a bad mofo!

 

Is there any reason to believe that he didn't have?

 

With better understanding about how the body works, it's possible that today's boxers are better conditioned than 100 years ago. It's certainly not something I would rule out.

Endurance isn't about heart, bravery, tough upbringing, etc. Those things won't help you when it comes to improving your VO2 max. Knowledge and smart training will - and it's hard to imagine, that today's boxers won't have an advantage here.

 

But knowing it and doing it is a different story, particularly in the heavweights, where the problem is accentuated worse.

Modern fighters fight nowhere near as often, and dont fight the best fighters anywhere near as often as the older fighters. MODERN nutrition and training theory tells us that this is a definite minus for the modern fighters.

Most of the fighters nowadays balloon in weight in between fights and spend large periods of time out of shape before entering into fight shape for a short period of time. This weight gain and weight drain pretty much killed Roy Jones Jr and later Chris Byrd showed how bad it can be when he went from heavy to light heavy. MODERN nutrition and training theory tells us this is bad. Most older fighters have a massive advantage here.

We know that preservatives, fats and other such foods are bad news and should be avoided. Modern Nutrition and training theory tells us this. I am pretty sure that some fighters particularly the likes of Andy Ruiz dont have diets as good as some of those older fighters. Surely it is conceded that some diets of older fighters are better than some diets of modern fighters isnt it.

I do think the biggest diffence is that technologies allow fighters nowadays to study opponents film better. And better communication methods and studies do allow a better development of what does and doesnt work and therefore, there is a much more universal agreement on basic training techniques and fighting styles etc.

That being said, it is very interesting that when you think how many of the most successful fighters like Ali, Jones Jr, Vitali Klitchsko etc are usually fundamentally flawed in many ways.

All in all, i am not necessarilly convinced that modern theory suggests that modern fighters train better, in fact it suggests the opposite in many cases. That being said, there are still plenty of well trained modern fighters at the top of the game, and there is no way that at least some of them arent in the same league as even some of the fittest and toughest old time fighters.

 

No, I don't think he does. It's probably even. But you're comparing two standouts of their eras. How about comparing the average fighters? Do you think Teofimo Lopez has better stamina than Lew Tendler? Or Rocky Kansas?

I don't.

 

So the fact that we can point to to Roy Jones and Chris Byrd as unfortunate examples of boxers dieting down from heavyweight late in their careers - this means that old-time boxers, as a whole, had a massive advantage when it comes to understanding nutrition and training theory? Really?

And sure, let's once more talk about fat Ruiz - who clearly proves, that today's boxers don't take their sport seriously.

Why is no one talking about the fat, untrained boxers from the old days? This type of boxers is nothing new - they have always been around. So why don't we ever hear about them? Like, for example:

Bill Brennan, in his ko defeat against Miske, was described as:
badly out-of-shape, with "stomach and back well rounded out with fat"

Willie Meehan being described as being:
"So fat that blows make no impression upon him."

Midget Wolgast was once thrown out of the ring by the ref (who declared a NC) for:
"appearing fat and out of condition"

And how about the hundreds of fights from the 1920s, where both boxers were kicked from the ring, because they either wouldn't or couldn't fight? Why don't we ever hear about this, but only about the sad state of affairs today... apparently caused by Ruiz being grossly overweight!

The idea that boxers from 100 years ago had a stamina advantage, because they knew more about physical training than today, is truely bizarre!

 

Tyson would slink him into the ether. You would see another Corey Spinks job

 

Yes, that Corey Spinks job was real nasty!

 

Do I think a youngster, who has been past 6 rounds only twice, has better stamina than two 150+ fight HOFers? LOL... no, I obviously don't!

 

Look at Brennan and you'll see that standards were a bit different back then. People called Jack Johnson out of shape and straightdown fat against Moran, yet he looked better on that fight than 90% of HWs today.

 

How long does Tom get with Tyson's PED cycle, that determines if he gets out of the first round