Prime Tommy Hearns @ 160 vs Pavlik. Who wins?

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  1. The Thruth!!!!!

    The Thruth!!!!! Active Member Full Member

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    That was kind'a my point Rock0052 when I posted this thread. Hearn's chin was his achilles heel IMO. Hell, Taylor is a much more gifted fighter than Pavlik is but he still got KTFO! Pavlik doesn't look pretty in the ring, but his tenacity, workrate and power make him a dangerous matchup for anyone.
     
  2. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    You really can't compare these guys prime for prime. Tommy peaked at 154, but Pavlik won't peak for another 18-24 months. He's 3-4 big fights away, and he will almost certainly be at 168 by then.
     
  3. adamsutherland

    adamsutherland Member Full Member

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    what a silly question, hearns in one of the easier fights of his life
     
  4. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's exactly why it wouldn't surprise me if Pavlik did win. Tommy's chin wasn't bad really (the Leonard fight was as much exhaustion as chin issues) until he got to middleweight and fought the punchers there. I don't think it's too soon to think about this mythical matchup because it's slim that Pavlik would ever decision him- but we've seen enough of Kelly's toughness and power to lead me to think a Pavlik stoppage is a realistic outcome, even if it's not the most likely.
     
  5. The Thruth!!!!!

    The Thruth!!!!! Active Member Full Member

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    I agree that a Pavlik stoppage is feasable, although I would still give Tommy the edge.
     
  6. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    am i hearing you right?

    are you saying hearns is one of the easier fights pavlik would have?
     
  7. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    One Hearns has a bigger reach than Pavlik.

    Two Hearns is better in every area bar chin than Pavlik.

    Three Hearns by Mid round TKO.
     
  8. adamsutherland

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    pavlik is over-rated rubbish until he fights somebody credible and beats them convincingly, its as though all usa boxing fans have been hipnotised into thinking pavlik is some sort of god, if he beats abraham convincingly (im backing abraham all the way) then ill change my judgement but until then i dont rate pavlik, he'd get schooled by kessler and calzaghe
     
  9. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    above you wrote that hearns is one of the easier fights of his life.

    maybe you should proof read your posts because you just gave pavlik huge props for beating hearns without realising it.


    by the way - if you don't rate pavlik until he beats someone credible then on what basis are you backing abraham to beat him considering that pavlik's already beaten miranda, as well as taylor twice?

    that alone is a better CV than abraham has.
     
  10. adamsutherland

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    if you read my post properly u will realise that i said hearns to win one of the easier fights of his life

    'what a silly question, hearns in one of the easier fights of his life' that means hearns to win unless you are illiterate


    taylor is over-rated rubbish as well, beating a hopkins who struggled to make the weight and then beating light middles and nothing more, abraham has proven he is like the new european winky, a complete nightmare for pavlik and with a massive punch
     
  11. The Thruth!!!!!

    The Thruth!!!!! Active Member Full Member

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    Why do I have the suspicion that you're a Calzagay nuthugging Brit? Speaking of which, who has Kessler beaten to be ranked so highly in your book? The best guys hes beaten are Mundine and Andrande. Good fighters but hardly world beaters. And like Slappy Joe, he spent his entire career beating creampuffs over in Denmark. Gimme a f'n break. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Kessler run from Miranda? I'm not saying he'd lose to Miranda but he did back out of that fight....and who the **** is Dimitri Sartison?!!! Oh yeah, another European creampuff champion. You probably think Pavlik's ducking Felix Sturm don't ya? I bet you were one of the guys saying Lockett would shock the world too.
     
  12. adamsutherland

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    i infact did back pavlik to beat lockett

    now if i were a boxer and given the chance to fight a fella who has ko power but has achieved nothing (miranda) or fight for a credible world title against an unknown fella its not a hard choice in my book

    felix sturm is one of the most annoying boxers out there because HE wont fight anybody, i really want him to fight abraham before he demolishes pavlik but now im hoping he loses against the euro middle champ and hope he chases one of the big 2

    and yes i am a calzaghe fan, and i want him to fight pavlik so people in the states respect him for beating somebody who isnt in his 40s, even tho hopkins is a tougher fight today than pavlik, but if calzaghe continues after jones (which i dont agree with) then itll be dawson or tarver and not pavlik

    surely its common sense that a prime hearns would batter pavlik if they were to both fight today, pavlik has achieved nothing when you look at what hearns has done
     
  13. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i'll quote you again :

    "hearns is one of the easier fights of his life" - just as you said above but maybe we're reading it different....

    aha! i see you've edited it :)

    you did have "is" in your original post...

    next time just admit the mistake and don't be so defensive...


    unless hearns is fighting himself your comment about being illiterate is coming across as pretty ironic right now.

    if you're not a native english speaker then just say so and then we can patch things up. but don't start labelling me when you posted incorrect english and messed up.
     
  14. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Questioning Pavlik's resume', and then saying that Abraham is the better man, is really stupid. Apart from Miranda, who Pavlik beat 7 shades of **** out of, Arthur's best wins are over guys who would not make 4 rounds with Kelly. Furthermore, it took AA 16 rounds to KO Miranda. Pavlik wasted his ass the first time out, and no rematch will ever be necassary.

    Taylor is rubbish?????? Won a bronze medal in the olympics, beat a younger, fresher BHop than Calzaghe TWICE and looked better doing it. And held Winky to a draw.

    You compare Arthur to Winky, and claim that as some basis for saying he is better than Pavlik, but Pavlik beat the man who held winky to a draw not once BUT TWICE.

    You ain't the sharpest tool in the shed now, are ya?
     
  15. The Thruth!!!!!

    The Thruth!!!!! Active Member Full Member

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    You can't reason with a JC nuthugger man. There almost as bad as they Gayweather nuthuggers were.