Prime Tommy Morrison vs Prime Michael Moorer

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  1. energie

    energie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    shegrant you know nothing about boxing you had to go to boxrec to see what ruddock did after morrison ...yes ruddock fought for mike acrie but his best days were far behind him due to the beating tyson gave him / and the lewis ko was the iceing on the cake
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    The crowd was booing Morrison because he was running so badly.. tho I shouldn't really call it running because all Tommy needed was a brisk walk to outpace lumbering old George.
     
  3. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Morrison was planting and hitting with combos, then he would move to avoid Foreman. That was not running at all.

    That was simply how you fight a guy with a great chin and power.

    Morrison was not doing a Camacho Vs. J C Chavez type running fight. Morrison was trading and standing at times with Big George. Quite often actually.

    Yall need to watch the fight without the rose colored glasses on. Tommy boxed incredibly, and pounded Foreman with scores of huge shots. Tommy just could not back old George up, so he would back up and then reset.

    NOT running....
     
  4. dinovelvet

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    I don't recall any booing.

    Was the great Holyfield no more than a useless runner . Didn't he employ a similar strategy on the back foot?

    When the going got tough for Tommy against the best opponent he faced , he boxed a great fight and showed glimmers of greatness.

    When the going got tough for your hero Wlad against the best he fought -Povetkin- a lesser opponent that Foreman , he completely tanked it when he threw boxing out the window and illegally wrestled his way to victory.

    Thats a marker for Wlads true standing as a great and why The Duke ranks above him in my books.
     
  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    What wrong with having a peak on boxrec?. Thats what its there for.
     
  6. Good Cop

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    Mr. Morrison lacked the straight right hand necessary to defeat a top-level southpaw like Mr. Moorer.

    A one-punch fighter is neutered vs the stance if that money punch is the left hook.
     
  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Sock it stupid.

    Holyfield floored Moorer with a left hook first fight and knocked him out with left hooks and right uppercuts in the second. Tommys best combination.

    Tony poleaxed Nunn with a left hook. The left hook is one of the most effective weapons against a southpaw.

    Go back talking gibberish about other posters . You don't know what you're talking about.
     
  8. Phil_Ivey_76

    Phil_Ivey_76 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If you're talking a PRIME Morrison you have to look at his performance vs Mercer (after that fight he was never the same) and then ask yourself could Moorer hang with that?

    I say probably no. Although It'd be a great slug-fest that could go either way.
     
  9. Good Cop

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    Just as Rome wasn't built in a day, your current state could only be caused by lengthy, sustained abuse from monsters who simply refuse to lose. This is why I expect this sort of reaction through the rehabilitation process- it's O.K., laddy.

    We're going to get you through this.

    It doesn't matter that those fighters both possessed a much more well-rounded two-handed offense than Mr. Morrison and superior right hands to open up the hook. Or that, fundamentally, trainers would never claim the left hook is more important than the right hand against southpaws.

    Or that Holyfield clearly floors Moorer with the right hand (straight, then uppercut), the left hook being a setup punch for right handed finishes that Morrison doesn't have.

    What matters is moving past the pain and trauma to get you well again. And if that means the left hook is the money punch against southpaws then, by George, so it shall be for you.

    I won't mention that, if your fantasy were accurate, Morrison would have had a much easier go of it against the southpaws he faced in reality. It's best not to ruin the delusion until you're in a healthier psychological state.
     
  10. Seamus

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    Starts in the 9th and 10th rounds. Go back and watch the film. The commentators even mention the booing.

    I am not saying Tommy fought the wrong fight against George. It was the only fight plan that could have brought him victory. I am just saying that that particular fight plan would not have worked against any other significant heavy of that day. Tommy lacked a gas tank and fluidity in his footwork. He is literally turning around and running away from an old, waddling George who can't catch up.

    And what the fukk does Wlad have to do with this debate? Your myopic, fixated approach to the sport is just weird... every discussion, no matter how tangential, always comes back to Wlad... Perhaps it is time for some reflection.
     
  11. The Long Count

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    Solid post. To me it's 50/50 fight both guys had Cruiserweight chins. I would be rooting for Tommy though as his style always pleased and engaged me. Moorer's lethargic sleep walk act at heavy frustrated the hell out of me at times.
     
  12. red cobra

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    Morrison deserved nothing but plaudits for the way he outfinessed George Foreman...running my ass,..he stuck to a smart as hell game plan and to his glory, emerged as the winner on points vs Big George....something that Moorer failed at. The ignominy of crashing at the feet of the ancient Foreman, 20 years after the rope-a-dope episode was instead, the fate of Michael Moorer, and this is to the everlasting credit of Tommy Morrison.
     
  13. Good Cop

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    Though I'm choosing Mr. Moorer here, I do agree that Mr. Morrison's win in that fight get sold short these days.

    It's a shame he couldn't keep it together to produce more performances like that. Instead, beating Mr. Foreman was a glimpse at what could have been had he maintained the discipline and work ethic of a champion. He was chosen by Mr. Foreman's team specifically because they didn't believe he had that ability in him and would be a name Mr. Foreman would knock out.
     
  14. Seamus

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    Let's refer to Wally Matthews regarding what really happened in 1993...

    "It was an ugly, messy, mauling affair, highlighted by just a handful of exchanges and few good punches. Incredibly, neither man could hurt the other last night. At least Foreman, being fat and 44, had an excuse. Morrison, prancing around the ring to escape Foreman's pressure and punching power, won the fight on the cards but lost the crowd in the Thomas & Mack Center, who booed his every evasive move"

    "The official cards were ludicrously one-sided. Patricia Jarman and Dalby Shirley had Morrison ahead, 117-110, and Jerry Roth had it 118-109. Newsday had Foreman, the aggressor throughout the bout and lander of all the most powerful punches, a 115-113 winner."
     
  15. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    :dealGreat post!