Prime Tony Tucker vs Prime Chagaev: Proof that this is a weak era.

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  1. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Personally, I think Tucker beats the **** outta him, and knocks him out somewhere around 5 or 6, but maybe sooner.

    Tucker is a big and skilled boxer puncher with good movement and slick defense that went the full 12 with Tyson twice, so Lord knows the guy can take bombs, and considering when he was in his prime his only loss was to Tyson and still had it up until Lewis beat him, I'd say Chagaev would be in a world of hell.

    Tucker had hands as fast as Klitschko and movement just as good, (not saying that he would beat Klitschko, but it would have been a hell of a fight), with a more versatile offense that included lethal uppercuts like the one he landed on Tyson in the video below.

    It's likely that Chagaev would be on the end of Tucker's jab, not able to keep up with his movement, but unlike Klitschko, Tony would probably take risks and tag Chagaev with uppercuts that he wouldn't see coming.

    This is something that Wlad is capable of doing, but fails to do in his fights, being satisfied with merely winning the bout rather than winning in devestating fashion.

    Look at the difference between Chagaev and Tyson in the video below. Notice how Tyson manages to make Tucker miss often, and continually presses the fight, making it difficult for the athletic Tucker to keep Tyson off of his jab.

    Chagaev seems to be content, (in the first ROUND!), to just staying on the end of Klitschko's jab, taking almost every punch Klitschko throws without the know how, or what looks like "ability" to get inside. When he does try, he looks like a geriatric Tyson or a guy that was simply trained in an amateur style that focuses on the 1-2.

    It is likely that it is a combination of both as Chagaev barely looked faster than Valuev and doesn't seem to be able to throw combinations, looking sloppy and uncoordinated when he does.

    Watch the videos at the same time and notice how Tucker moves just as fluidly as Klitschko, but unlike Klitschko, his opponent knows how to fight, and it's not easy for him to simply jab away at a punching bag for an opponent.

    An unnamed poster and apparent badass, who knows "Kempo" whatever the **** that is, thinks that Chagaev would beat the **** outta Tucker.

    Unfortunately for him, he knows jack **** about boxing skills, and should stick to watching two homosexuals roughin it up on the ground.

    Anyway, enjoy the videos.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEV1SMJvCFU

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6zoOduHoTA&feature=related
     
  2. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    Tucker was a much better fighter, only Tyson beat a PRIME Tucker.
     
  3. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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  4. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    Well, if a past it Tony Tucker can go 12 rounds w/ the last great HW champion Lennox Lewis, then I reckon Tucker can take Chagaev. Didn't Tucker stop Buster Douglas?
     
  5. Lacyace

    Lacyace Forever Knight Full Member

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    Yea, Tony Tucker would have beat the brakes off Chagaev.
     
  6. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    Buster quit in what was a competitive fight, Tucker was ahead though, he also beat McCall.
     
  7. Uncle Oden

    Uncle Oden Respect Guzman banned

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    a past it Tucker beats Chagaev, let alone a prime Tony Tucker.
     
  8. Words

    Words Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree. Guys like Tony Tucker, Ray Mercer and Razor Ruddock would beat Chag into the dust. The fact that guys from that era, like Holyfield, Briggs, Golota and so many others over 40 are still competitive and still pick up belts regularly shows how weak it is at the moment.

    The Klitschko's are a different story, I think I'd pick either of them against Tony Tucker in his prime, although Corrie Sanders was never much better than that Tucker and he managed to beat Wlad Klitschko so you can't be sure. Tuckers chin would keep him in it, and his size/strength would be useful in the later rounds as the Klitschko's stamina weakens. But I rate both of the Klitschko to be way more poweful, better jabs, and as having really good ring generalship too. That's why I'd edge it in their favour.

    I think the point is, if guys like Tucker, Mercer and so on where around today, like they were when Lennox was fighting, the Klitschko brothers would've been in much more exciting and competitive fights, and they'd have more fans as a result. They'd probably have been beaten a few more times too, but I think that is a sacrifice they could live with if it means being widely respected.
     
  9. Tro

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    Good Question, Easy Answer.

    Tucker.

    Great job with the clips showing round 1. A person who had never seen them both fight before can make an obvious clear, concise analysis of a potential matchup.
     
  10. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Just post "the black guy", no need to sugar coat it.
     
  11. diamondDave

    diamondDave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Retired fighters seem to get better every year in the minds of fans. We forget their deficiencies and focus on their strengths. Tucker was a good boxer but not great and by no means do I think he would walk over Chagaev, regardless of who you would think wins this fight.
     
  12. LONGROB

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    This fight would not even be competitive. Look at how Tucker was holding his own with Tyson who's an absolute monster. Look at how Tyson is on Tuckers ass as soon as the round starts and the guy is not folding up. He's actually countering and doing a good job.
     
  13. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Chagaev that fought Wlad was disease ridden and not even 60% of what he was 2 years before he started developing sicknesses and injuries. The writting was on the wall well before he faced Wlad, anyone that watched him against both Drummond and Skelton would agree, that he wasn't the same fighter that beat Valuev in april of 07.

    As far as Tucker/Chagaev, it would be competitive, but I see Tucker knocking him out late or getting the decision 8 rounds to 4.
     
  14. joe the great

    joe the great Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tough one to call. Tucker was beaten by Tyson, Lewis and Sledon. He was getting beaten by Buster Douglas before Douglas tuckered out against Tucker.
     
  15. 2ironmt

    2ironmt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    tough one to call huh? tucker was past it by the time lewis and certainly seldon got to him. chagaev hasn't fought any top hw's other than wlad (and to a much much lower extent ruiz and vlauev) so of course he has a few less losses. **** seldon's on the comeback trail, he could probably take a few rounds from chagaev even at this point based upon his still quick jab alone. a 1995 seldon would pepper chagaev all night to get the clear decision.