Prime Tony Tucker vs Prime Chagaev: Proof that this is a weak era.

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  1. Davies

    Davies Boxing Addict Full Member

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    tucker would kill him even a past it tucker would dominate him
     
  2. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    tucker stops him late ,chagaev lack of head movement would get him a bad beating against a prime tucker
     
  3. joe the great

    joe the great Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He'd probably be ahead on 2 of three cards then get stopped by Chagaev.
     
  4. gorgse

    gorgse Active Member Full Member

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    The past get better as time goes on... First Tucker did nothing to keep Tyson off of him, he didn't keep distance with the Jab like Wlad did with Chagaev, Chagaev may not be as heavy of a hitter as Tyson, but he still has one heck of a punch. Second Chageav is alot bigger than Tyson was(height and reach) so even though he isn't as fast as Tyson, he wouldn't need to in order to get to Tucker. Wlad fought the perfect fight and kept his distance for a dangerous puncher, Tucker woudn't have. I think Chagaev woudl have got in and Roughed up Tucker, his supperior skill compared to tucker and ring smarts woudl have been the desiding factor.
     
  5. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh **** off with that ****.
     
  6. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Okay...

    So I guess Tyson had nothing to do with Tucker not being able to control the distance? I mean, he's arguably the best come foward heavyweight of all time, yet he had nothing to do with closing the distance?

    Chagaev is bigger than Tyson? Isn't he 6 foot? And is there that much of a disparity in reach? If there was, Chagaev didn't use it to close the distance and definitley appears to be the weaker man.

    Chagaev has superior skill?

    He's an amateur fighter, and he doesn't have the athleticism, seemingly the know how, nor the skill to close the distance and make his opponent move.

    And where do you get this notion that he has power that would bother Tucker when Tucker went the distance with Tyson TWICE?

    Chagaev has never been known to have heavy hands, has he?
     
  7. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just realized it was Tony Tucker, not Tony Tubb. Yes, change my vote to Tucker UD. He had mental lapses that would let a tough guy like Chagaev off the hook, but he would beat Chagaev badly in the meantime.
     
  8. 2ironmt

    2ironmt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I assume you meant 2009 bruce seldon
     
  9. 2ironmt

    2ironmt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't care if chagaev is a foot taller than tyson, he still wouldn't be 1/2 the fighter tyson was in his prime so it's not a good idea to use the tyson/tucker fight as anytype of analogy.

    tucker is bigger, stronger, and more athletic than chagaev. he's gotta better jab and overall skills. maybe chag has a little more power, but who would know b/c chagaev ain't done ****. as has been said many times, who has he beaten clearly: valuev? yes he looked good in that fight but valuev is a stationary target who even past their prime good hw's can beat (see holyfield, donald). tucker's the better fighter, athlete, and more tested
     
  10. joe the great

    joe the great Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He'd stop 2009 Seldon before the 6th round.
     
  11. Leprikawn7

    Leprikawn7 Active Member Full Member

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    I would bet Tony wouldnt take as long as Wlad did to get him out of there!
     
  12. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Y'all seem to think you can quantify a fighter's ability on the basis of watching just one of his fights. How well did Tucker do vs southpaws? Why does Chagaev lack head movement, because Vladimir Klitschko jabbed him all not long? Same way he jabbed the "stationary" Chris Byrd all night long?
     
  13. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tucker would be a very live opponent against either Wlad or Vitaly, let alone Chagaev who he'd handle with ease.
     
  14. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    oh this forum...

    if a Brit / foreignor beats a USA guy, a lot of threads will be comparring them to the past USA top fighters...it's purposely done to knock the foreign ( non USA champ ).

    A perfect example was just comparring tucker to chagaev,this is done in a very sublte way( but it is transparent none the less) and in general reeks of an agenda on the part of the thread starter,we are all guilty of it at times but it is a trait i am seing more n more by american fans due to the globalisation of the sport and the inability to allow for the fact that the american era of doiminance is at an end (hence the cliche's like eurobums,our athletes compete elsewhere etc etc)

    now trying to be-little chagaev (or current fighters) by comparring him to past fighters causes what the haters call " nutthugging " the haters always cast the first stone, then cry about nuthugging, which they themselves create...

    in fact **** it im turning this into a thread,anyone seeing the irony?:D
     
  15. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    This is not true though. I made this thread because Chagaev was being taken way out of proportion and made into this great fighter, which clearly he is not.

    This is not a knock on Wlad because he handled Chagaev with ease, (like he should have), but it is a knock on the quality of heavyweights outside of Wlad, Vitali, and Haye.