Prime Tua is back.....But...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by boxingcar, Oct 7, 2009.


  1. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    Hold up man, I simply stopped reading after that. If you believe a tubby 137 lbs is tip top shape for Tua then I can't even take the rest of what you say seriously. With your kind of logic I'd suppose if Tyson comes back at 237 lbs and beats the **** out of some complete bum you'd be saying he's in prime form as well. :nut
     
  2. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Douglas of that night would have beat the **** out of Tua.
     
  3. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Moorer beat Holyfeld. Moorer would KOed whatever bum Tua fought just the same and would have schooled Tua as well.
     
  4. the_brigand

    the_brigand I'll Eat Her Later... Full Member

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    Tua was never really the same guy after the Ibeabuchi fight. Ibeabuchi fell apart completely both inside and outside the ring but Tua's decline in the ring is also visible.
     
  5. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Still doesn't change the fact that he was overrated as hell. And a victory over Holyfield tells more about him than Moorer.

    You guys fail to understand that all eras , without exception...were overrated.

    Holyfield lost to the overrated Ruiz too. (Ruiz , overrated & boring as ****)...There's so many overrated fighters (legends) out there it's insane.

    How many times have i seen guys like Moorer , or ****in riddick Bowe ! (guy who was ridiculed by the mentally perturbed Golota ..Twice ! Golota ruined his own chances of beating the guy because of the low blows and yet Bowe was getting schooled by that mental midget).

    Having said all that , Holyfield was of course the superior champ out of the bunch.
     
  6. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    I didnt really think Moorer or Ruiz especially were rated that high though
     
  7. gregor

    gregor Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree Tua do not have a chance against Klitschkos, and he may be overrated after his win over Cameron.

    The bottom line is that one does not need to beat any Klitschko to become a titleholder, especially with Vitali retiring soon and vacating another belt. Do you really think Tua is much worse than Maskaev or Briggs?
     
  8. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You don't know that. You're just asserting it.

    You're talking about a guy who already had 3 or 4 losses prior to his fight vs Tyson and who lost (to holyfield) right after beating him. The guy had a 54% KO ratio... Compare that to Lennox' 72% or Vitali's 92%.. Douglas was far from being a KO artist ...

    Tua may not be as skilled as a prime Tyson but he's patient , doesn't easily gets frustrated (like tyson)...
     
  9. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're aware Moorer has faced Tua already right?

    You think that Moorers chin was that much better a few years earlier? Moorer at any stage of his career was a sitting duck for a Tua type fighter.
     
  10. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    agree with you , except tua can't KO wlad , wlad's chin not reachable for tua , agianst valuev it will go the distance , not sure which way , boring fight.
     
  11. Popshots

    Popshots Active Member Full Member

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    Tua has only been fight nobodies lately, I doubt it. Wlad would fight him similar to how Lewis did. Same old Tua left hook left hook against same trainer Manny Stewart. As far as Haye he has to step up first in order to be considered a HW. Valuev would be interesting.
     
  12. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Prime Tua is NOT back, how is that prime Tua? :huh

    Any version of Tua, prime or not, loses to either Klitschkos in my opinion. A fight with Vitali would be more exciting with some awesome exchanges.
     
  13. 11player

    11player Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IMO there are 2 HWs out there Tua has very little chance to beat today, both are named Klitschko, all the others will end up splitting the odds or even less against Tua.

    It's a shame Tua's career was somewhat unfortunate. Bad management and bad luck prevented him from having fights with Tyson, Bowe, Holy, just to name a few.

    Still, I would very much like to watch Tua fight against Meehan, Peter, Arreola, Ruiz, names that make sense for his career.
     
  14. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Moorer was ko in the 1st round by Tua you knucklehead lol. Yes Moorer was past his prime but so was Tua. Imagine prime vs prime? Tua ko Moorer but in the 4th or 5th round.
     
  15. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    I disagree. Tua wasn't the same ever since he weigh in at the 240's, 250's.