Prime Tyson and Prime Dempsey

Muchmoore · May 14, 2009

MrMarvel said: ↑

Foreman fought Frazier, Norton, Ali, Lyle, Young, Cooney, Holyfield, Moorer, and several other lesser but still solid heavyweights. This is a weak resume?
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If Foreman had actually beaten all of the guys you listed, his resume would be awesome

Muchmoore · May 14, 2009

pugilist_boyd said: ↑

jack may get knocked down but to tysons amazement this so called little man would be up at the count of 1 tearing into a bewilderd tyson with shots as hard as any of the overrated heroes everyone blabs about untill tysons legs folded right after his confidence does
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This isn't a movie, :good

spittle8 · May 18, 2009

prime said: ↑

Thanks. Tyson should win. The tougher question is, Would he?

Dempsey-Louis, or Dempsey-Marciano, is harder to call.

Tyson seems to me the unwitting era groundbreaker. He brought together qualities that were the province of only the mightiest legendary heavyweights. Before 1986, only Dempsey and Louis were established fast, two-handed powerpunchers. Jeffries, Baer, Marciano, Liston, Frazier, Foreman...they could hit, but they were also slow and/or predictably reliant on one hand.

The 20-year-old sensation made it normal for a new generation to believe that large muscles could produce power and speed. Yore, bulking up was
disdained as becoming "muscle-bound". Certainly Dempsey and Louis didn't need to look like The Incredible Hulk to deliver the goods. This was one reason why Liston was so scary for his time: a powerhitter with huge muscles and some speed. Wow! The talk was of his perhaps being the best of all time.

Well, at 5'11", 218 lbs., Tyson was a new, improved version of them all. He viciously tore through whatever stood in front of him. He could work with the stylists and soundly beat them as well. The way he annihilated the best the world had to offer was every bit as impressive as the fabled destructions of Willard, Schmeling, Walcott and Patterson. And he did it "old-school", down to the look.

If only, after Cus, he'd had something to fight for, he could have legitimately sat on the throne of the greatest.
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Again, great post.

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