Prime tyson beats prime holyfield, convince me.

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  1. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  2. waiting the proofs... pure speculation... the facts are that past prime (4 years older) holyfield destroyed tyson (not prime but still a good version). and the facts are buster douglas destroyed tyson and holyfield raped douglas. please it is basing on your imagination maybe?
     
  3. PowerPuncher

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  4. like i said....tyson was not even close to the style of stewart,cooper or bowe.
    cooper was closer to joe frazier, it is because i think that joe had the stamina ,the heart,the power and the pressure style to defeat evander, frazier did the work of demolition slowly, tyson was a fast starter, but his stamina was very poor. evander was stronger,younger and better boxer in the years 90-91 than he was in 96-97, more weight is not = stronger . he weighed 209 of pure muscle when he faced foreman, 212 against stewart,210 pounds against tommas,210 against cooper.
    ,he was much faster, he weighed 215pounds against tyson in 1996, tyson weighed 222 pounds in 1996, prime tyson weighed 216-218. so where is your great difference of size?
    in my mind holyfield would beat tyson always. simple. prime tyson could not finish james tillis, james smith, green,tucker.(i will not mention buster douglas), how might him finish a prime evander who was x 45 better than these guys(with much better chin)?

    so the argument of the size is absolutely ridiculous. foreman was much bigger ,harder puncher , he had better chin, he was heavier and stronger than tyson.
     
  5. Mirko

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    tyson beats holyfield pre-prison.
     
  6. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Proof? What proof could their possibly be? All of it is speculative. That much is obvious. There's no such thing as concrete proof in a hypothetical situation.
     
  7. janitor

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    A big part of the sucess that Holyfield had against Tyson was due to his ability to work inside the space Tyson needed to work in.

    This would always have been an issue, imo even with a cruiserweight Holyfield.
     
  8. D.T

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    Prime holyfield did not tend to brawl! Only idiots think this.

    Prime holyfield was one of the most elusive heavyweights of all time.
     
  9. lefthook31

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    Id say he was more than a tad big stronger. Even Bowe 3 theres a huge difference in the way Evander wasnt being pushed around the ring. That was a big difference in offsetting the poorly balanced Tyson. Regardless of the actual weights Evander was clearly stronger and more physical in the ring. He was never a big puncher so a higher workrate and more speed might not be as big of a factor against the better timed equally as quick Tyson whose hands would have most likely been freed up more to punch with Evander in 1990.
     
  10. like i said .... every argument in favour of tyson are without any sense. simply " tyson would win because i say it" no convincing explanation
     
  11. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    So what happen in the Cooper fight, the first Bowe fight, the Foreman fight, and the Stewart fight??? That was some elusive **** eh?
     
  12. your opinion was " prime tyson would beat any fighter" without any explanation, so it has no credibility. simple
     
  13. Mirko

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    holyfield almost got played by a prehistoric Holmes, and tyson killed him in 4. so? it makes no sense. styles make fights so these comparisons douglas destroyed tyson and holyfield destroyed douglas and tyson destroyed holmes who was barely beaten by holyfield are a waste of time.
    holyfield is always a tough fight for tyson but I think pre prison tyson has the edge.
     
  14. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Well a big part of the reason he was able to do that was because Tyson loaded up with one big shot, usually telegraphed in poor balance falling in, and not behind a jab or any type of series of punches. That makes it a lot easier to stand in the pocket and fire back, dont you think?
     
  15. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Really? That was my opinion? Direct me to said post, if you wouldn't mind.