Prime Tyson is Holmes era starting with Norton

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  1. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Tyson walks through all of the heavyweights of Holmes era and even KO's the fighters Holmes did not fight such as Tate,Coetzee,Page,Dokes and the better version of Weaver. He makes quick work of Cooney and Shavers and Snipes, Witherspoon was an underachiever and most of his wins were squeakers, I see a repeat of the 2nd bone-crusher Smith fight with Tyson starting fast. Tyson had a good chin and the type of fights that beat him are the durable good stamina fighters that can either move well with power to keep him at bay or the attrition fighters.

    I think some would give him a few rougher fights but don't see anyone beating him from that era.


    But that my opinion. Any thoughts on the subject and if so which fighters of that era would beat Tyson and why
     
  2. Hookie

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    Tyson could most likely beat every fighter Holmes fought from 1973-1985... but 12 1/2 years is a long time to go without a loss.

    Tyson went a little less than 5 years without a defeat. Could Tyson go 12+ years without a loss?

    With that said, I could see Tyson having an off night vs. the likes of a determined Tim Witherspoon, Renaldo Snipes, or even Gerry Cooney. Sure, Tyson was better than those guys but could Tyson reign for 7+ years as champ without slipping up? I doubt it.
     
  3. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I think tyson had a 3 year peak. inside that 3 year peak he beats all of them- no question. after that you can not rely on him. post 1990 tyson would struggle, self distruct as he did in his own time zone. difrent time zone same problems.
     
  4. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    yeah good points all. tyson was like mcgovern: destined to flash bright and fade quickly. from 1986-1988 he beats 99.9% of heavyweights ever. but he didn't have the style or the longevity that holmes did, the kind that may be needed to stay at the top for a decade. if he can squeeze them all into 3-5 years as choklab said, sure. but otherwise, over time, tyson slows, his style becomes less effective with age and he loses to someone he clearly shouldn't.
     
  5. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Depends on if Don King gets to him. Or if Cus & Jimmy Jacobs lived throughout Tysons career. He would dominate in any era. But if King did his voodoo. Then Snipes or Witherspoon would be the new"Buster Douglas"
     
  6. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't count Shavers out against anyone who stands in front of him and trys to trade.

    Shavers in the first 5 rounds just might "poleaxe" Tyson.
     
  7. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Don King did not get his hooks into Tyson and Iron Mike remained focused I dont think 10-12 years is a long time fighting as Young as he started. If Cus D'mato + friends were still alive and protected Mike from the Predators and Pimps and Mike avoided the 3 year prison loss...I think Mike does a lot more...Yes he still had to overcome getting off the floor to win and a late round KO to be compaerd to the ATG 15 rd Heavyweights but how many out of the best goes past 8 rds with Mike?...the ones that would beat Mike are the tough chinned and willed and strong minded guys able to take Mike past 8 rds and stay in or the cute boxers with power to keep him at bay and take him deep.

    Tyson can also be Ko;d early by someone so there is always the posibility he gets flat KO'd but most of the time he is the one with the advantage early
     
  8. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lary Holmes is a great boxer and would do very well in any eara. He is capple of beating any heavyweight (Please note that I am not saying that he would beat any heavyweight) in history. However he fought in an otherwise week eara for the heavyweight devision. I do not see anyone who would give Mike Tyson any probblems. He would probbly get to the 50-0 mark.
     
  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    my opinion too. tyson>holmes , base it on whatever you like : their fight , their fights against spinks , holmes fight against norton as opposed to what would have happened to norton had he ever fought tyson , common opponents , but weirdly enough , holmes stopped smith twice and tyson could/did not.
    cumming to think about it : holmes also survived holyfield while tyson did not.
     
  10. duran duran

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    the only man tyson couldnt beat was himself he murders all the heavyweights from holmes era
     
  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    If he stays focussed, then yes. If his management team falls apart along with his whole life outside the ring, then there were plenty of guys back then who could have done a Buster Douglas on him....
     
  12. Unforgiven

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    I think the Tyson of the Douglas fight would have beaten the vast majority of Holmes' title opposition.
     
  13. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't know if the Tyson who fought Douglas could have beaten Bozo the clown. :smoke
     
  14. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You really think Tyson would walk through Norton?
     
  15. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am Sure of it