Prime Tyson V Prime Joe Louis

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Tyson vs Louis? Is it that time of the week again?
     
  2. GoldenChild

    GoldenChild Formerly Samurai Full Member

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    Louis is ahead!? What the hell kind of bull**** is that.
     
  3. Hydraulix

    Hydraulix Left Hook From Hell.. Full Member

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    It's really hard to predict the outcome of a Mike Tyson fight because his low confidence is a much bigger factor than his fast handspeed and frightening power. If you're not afraid of Tyson, you've got a good shot. I don't see any way Tyson wins against Louis.
     
  4. SteveO

    SteveO MSW Full Member

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    Sure is.

    We're going to do Tyson-Ali tomorrow.

    It's like your favorite movie that you can watch 1000 times.

    In all honesty, it's a decent fantasy match-up. No disrespect intended.
     
  5. leverage

    leverage Active Member Full Member

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    Joe louis had an only average chin and his slow feet wouldn't be fast enough to get him out of trouble once he got hurt. He was hurt and floored by men that 30-40 pounds lighter than tyson so it would stand to reason that tyson could do the same or worse. Also, tyson was a great finsher who rarely let his opponents off the hook once he hurt them.

    Louis would be facing someone not only much heavier than himself, but is his equal in handspeed and punching power. Tyson also had superior defense and a much stronger chin. Louis would have try to get to him first and consistently and i doubt that he could do that without getting caught.

    I know that joe is a legend but that doesn't mean that couldn't lose. My pick is tyson by tko in 5.
     
  6. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Serious?

    That is BS, Tyson won't go out to an early KO from almost any fighter in history, his chin is too good.
     
  7. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    tyson never evolves...he is just too slow
     
  8. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No disrespect to Joe but he was wobbled/knocked down by blown up middle/lthwts and Ko'ed by a cruiser in Schmeling. I guarantee that Mike does not need countless right hands like Max to stop him. A few will do. Remember Botha ? Tyson would be a laughing stock if he struggled with those tiny guys like Joe did. He made a career out of bouncing A to C level BIG skilled fighters like Berbick, Holmes,Spinks, Ruddock, Williams, Stewart etc etc around like ping pong balls.

    Mike will easily match and probably outspeed him, chin is in another zipcode and Joes slow feet standing right in front of him ain't gonna help.

    This will be a Tyson KO not matter how you are dicing or slicing it unless you use the shell of a shell fat ass who fought Lewis and then Mike better not get some clean shots in...........straight out of a time machine against a 86-88 prime Tyson it is going to be good nite early for Louis, again , no disrespect intended.
     
  9. Manassa

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    People may forget how scary and explosive Louis could be.
     
  10. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    This is true.

    People talk about Tysons whirlwind attack and early stoppages because they have seen him destroy Berbick and Spinks in glorious technicolour but what about Louis's.

    I would submit that Louis has a record of stoppages in the first and second round as impresive as Tyson's and arguably moreso.
     
  11. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    You seem to think that Louis's chin is pure glass.

    The fact is that he was only stopped twice in 70+ profesional fights and both times it was after sustained beatings from elite punchers. Louis never actualy lost a fight because of his chin.

    Dont forgett also that Louis fought ranked contenders than Mike Tyson by a ratio of 2 or 3 to one so that is more room to screw up/get dumped on your ass.

    If Louis's chin was so bad why did nobody ever manage to capitalise on it?

    Its not like the top fighters of the era wernt given enough oportunities.
     
  12. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Louis, late stoppage.
     
  13. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    I'm 100% in agreement with your pick, but am curious as to why you reckon so early on? I think Tyson would start well and Louis would have to brave the odd difficult moment, but brave it out he would./ It'd be a fairly even contest up until the later rounds. I think Tyson would begin to wilt a little bit earlier, Louis then picks him off more and outguns/outwills Tyson to win via accumulation stoppage in a intriguing battle between the best two composite punchers in the divisions history.


    Louis TKO9 Tyson.
     
  14. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    It's realistic bull****, which sounds right to me. :good
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I see Louis's skills in making room for a punch the difference here, but I accept that it could go either way.

    The main thing - imagine being ringside for this one? Imagine how electric it would be. Tyson getting ready to come out of one corner. Louis getting ready to come out of the other. I don't think you'd get an atmosphere close to it in any other imaginable fight. Seriously. These guys were the unbeateables who were beaten. I bet it would be hard to catch a breath waiting for round 1.
     
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