Prime Tyson V Prime Joe Louis

Joe would earn his respect imediately, as soon as Tyson came charging in Joe would counter and Jab...Louis would be content jabbing and taking his time but if Mike came in looking for a quick night he would feel the power and counter punching ability of the best power/combo puncher ever. I remember in a fight with Tony Tucker (who was a decent puncher at best) Tucker caught Tyson early with an uppercut and Tyson was a bit more carefull how he came in. Joe Louis is a different animal than most of Tyson's opponents and ofcourse Iron Mike was a formidable puncher but Tyson never got off the floor to win and only once stpped a trial horse past 8 rds.....Louis by Ko

 

I think in terms of great punchers at heavyweight Liston-Tyson comes closest to this one in terms of anticipation. Both these fights would be unreal in terms of the event and the fight itself. If we're talking a fight in general Ali-Marciano would've been a boxoffice smash had they been around in same era, but for me Ali is just too good more or less every time in that one.

 

No it's not.

 

What is not realistic is to pick against any top 10 all time heavyweight with certainty.

Have you never seen Tyson Douglas?

 

Joe Louis was not eqaul to Mike Tyson in any..any department. This is a short fight, a pure beat down.

Mike Tyson by KO in 3 rounds..

 

Tyson pressures him into the ground. Tyson inside 4

Tyson is too fast and too powerful.

 

I would say he was equal or better in virtualy every department.

 

Yeah, I have. And with all things surrounding that fight, Tyson still almost knocked him out.
Louis fought nothing like Douglas. Was a small heavyweight, hittable and a very dentable chin.

 

What makes you think that Louis was any less fast or powerfull?

 

thank you.

You can posit suspected pro's and con's, give various scenarios, but in the case of all-time greats you can not emphatically deny the possibility of victory for either.

put a gun to my head and i say Louis weathers a quick storm and beats down tyson over 7 rounds. however, if they fought ten times, tyson would surely take out louis at least once. so...

 

My poit is that when you match a world class heavyweight against a great fighter the outcome is in doubt.

If you match two great fighters the result is positively unpredictable.

While I think Louis would win I would not bet £10 on it because we are matching the two most efective heavyweight punchers of all time and either guy can make a mistake.

 

Honestly, I think power could be handed to either fighter in this circumstance, but how can you even questions Tyson's speed? He's easily top 5 all time both foot and hand speed.

 

Speed is a funny thing.

While Tyson had slightly faster hands Louis threw much straighter and more compact punches which ment that the delivery time could be quicker.

Tyson had faster feet but I dont think he was necisarily a faster starter.

 

As great as he was, I don't see any possible way Louis wins this. I can't trust his defense, chin or his mobility.

 

Louis's big advantages are his boxing brain, steel mentality and better long range boxing. But IMO Tyson's advantage in speed and power, coupled with his strong defense, is enough not to give Louis sufficient time and space to explot his own advantages. Tyson by early KO.

But I can see a case for Louis as well, of course. This is just my take.