Prime Tyson V Prime Joe Louis

This the first thought, but then you remember how quick off the mark Louis was in the Baer, Simon and Schmeling rematches.

 

I used to say the same thing, even down to TKO9. But then I imagined a slugfest and it seemed more exciting.

I could see Louis weathering a first round storm and then in the next frame, catching Tyson with a couple of table turning punches and stopping his momentum.

 

Sure. I just think that Louis looses out if they both go out fast and hard. And I think Louis also would have a hard time controlling Tyson from a distance in the early rounds if he chose that route.

 

Joe Louis would have the skills needed to beat Tyson, IF the fight went into the later rounds, where Tyson had the tendency to lose steam and interest. The problem I have here, is that Louis would have to weather a very dangerous storm early. We can talk all we want about how he was only stopped twice in sustained beatings over many rounds, but that doesn't erase the fact that he was often suseptible to getting decked early as shown in his fights with Schmeling, Braddock, Baer, Galento, and Walcott. Great as these fighters may have been, none of them, and I mean NONE of them had the fast starting tendencies or dangerous punching abilties that Tyson had. In order for Louis to beat Tyson and land those lethal combos, he would literally have to stand directly in front of Tyson in his usual stationary stance. This would be an extremely parilous position for him to be in.

I have to pick Tyson by knockout.

 

I can't help but agree. I think Louis would definitely find himself on the canvas during the early rounds. However, depending on the quality of his chin, he would get back up in Tyson's face despite the knockdowns, and this would frustrate Tyson, and he'd be ready to quit.

Joe had a good chin, but the closest thing to Tyson that he fought was Marciano. To me, it all depends on Louis' chin. If he could survive the early knockdowns, then he's gonna put a whoopin' on Mike later.

 

This is how I see it as well.

 

Everytime Tyson decked someone early he finished him. Yes, I know that none of them were Louis. But the big difference between Louis and most of Tyson's opponents was Louis's mental strength and offense, not his chin and defence.

 

This is certainly the most logicaly sound case for Tyson outlined so far.

While I disagree with your overall prediction I dont take issue with any of the points you outlined.

 

Good point. I like how you think. :smooch

I could definitely envision Tyson hurting Louis. This would have definitely been an exciting fight to watch!! Too bad we'll never know for sure.

 

Chin, Yep Louis got knocked down a few times but out side of one fight wasn't' hurt. And Schmelling lambasted that shaky chin for a hell of a lot of rounds, back when Louis still had that lazy jab and wasn't really in shape being a party animal.

Two Ton Tony Galanto was ranked number 2 for that fight.

Louis did admit that he didn't like being pressured...Like saying Rock might have beaten him in his prime too. Then Tyson too....if Tyson could do 15.
Blackburn vs Cuz is the trick.
Louis drew them in with his little back shuffle.

This is harder than I thought, but Louis gets Tyson tapes and Louis was absoulte murder on a second fight....that makes it even.
Louis's jab is top 6 heavy all time at least.
I'll go with Louis getting up off his ass, and Ko'ing Tyson in the Championship rounds,say round 14, in a grueling fight.