Prime Tyson V Prime Joe Louis

BS, forget about newspaper clippings, once you spend some time in boxing circles with old timers you will hear exactly what I posted before, they called them BUMS. period aka no respect aka cannonfodder aka no challenge aka gimme fights.

 

Okay, i guess what people say afterward is the real meaning instead of what they said at the time. atsch

 

Joe Louis and Muhamad Ali had an argument once about who would have won if they had fought in their primes. Ali criticised Louis's opposition:

"You had the bum of the month club"

Louis replied.

"Yes kid you would have been one of them"

Now whether or not that is literaly true the point is valid. The bum of the month club were fighters in the wrong place at the wrong time.

They were the best challengers available for Louis and if he had never been born then two or more of them would have been the lineal heavyweight champion.

 

Janitor, or anyone, I wonder what you make of Archie Moore's use of the expression "bum a month." Check Fitzgerald's "Ageless Warrior" where Moore is cited as saying that Louis fought a "bum a month" and further says he himself fought a "bum a week." See page 147. The book is in GoogleBooks online.

The context seems to suggest Moore is claiming he (and Louis) lasted as long as they did fighting "bums" (though Moore claims he lasted longer fighting a "bum a week!") which certainly seems to be a negative description of their opponents. In fact, Moore asks who did Louis fight?

If those citations are accurate, perhaps there is something to learn about the meaning of the expression.

 

Can you find a better set of potential oponents that either man could have fought?

Look at the rankings and you will see that the bum of the month clubs were the best around at the time.

Bum of the month = born at the wrong time.

 

Bad matchup for Joe Louis.

He's still the greater fighter.

Tyson KO mid-rds, different eras, different physiques

 

Louis left hook ko in short order,Tyson couldnt beat a Fighter of Joe's ability Tyson only won when he could intimidate his opponet

 

Tyson was an awesome 4 round fighter like Dempsey but after that he wasnt such a threat. Louis on the other hand was the greatest heavyweight thats ever lived with Ali. His power, the leverage he got on his punches and his 'genuine' class would take out Tyson late on .. Louis had a technical problem against Schmelling in that he dropped his left hand when he threw his right, thats how Schmelling beat him but the rematch was probably the most brutal 2 minutes in the history of the heavyweight division .. Tyson doesnt compare to Louis, in fact Tyson was a very average fighter compared to Louis, if Tyson had serious 'Class' it would have lasted more than 4 years .. Tyson's reign was far too short to compare him to Louis or Ali