Prime Tyson vs Prime Frazier

You're far from realistic if you give Frazier no hope at all of beating Tyson believe you me.

 

Where did I say he had no hope at all? Please don't speak for me.I find I do not have any trouble doing it for myself.

Let's look at how they match up.
Power =Tyson
Two fisted power =Tyson
Speed= Tyson
Punch variety=Tyson
Defence =Tyson
Chin =Tyson
Size =Tyson
Weight =Tyson

Now explain to me why I should pick Frazier?
I'm open to being converted.

 

Fights are not won by stats, that's where your argument is wrong.

Tyson never fought and won anybody with the relentless as Frazier, Tyson never met anybody who fought on the inside like Frazier.

Holyfield mentioned on Ringside lastnight that Tyson was used to knocking people out who pulled straight back from him, he couldn't handle it when someone came forward to him.

 

You fan boys can't win the fact sheet so you waffle on about heart and stamina as if this one is going to the wire.

Ruddock came straight for Tyson he got beat up twice, Berbick met him in mid ring he lasted under two rounds and he had a better chin than Frazier.

This fight is not about who was the nicer guy ,or who had the stamina to go into the later rounds ,it's about who gets off first, how often ,and how hard and that would be Tyson.
Frazier never met anyone who could hit as hard and fast as Tyson and with both hands,we are not talking about him repeatedly running into Foreman's wide hooks because he didn't have a clue how to do anything else.
It's about Frazier facing a man who hit harder , faster,and with both hands than he did,who was stronger, heavier,and had a better chin, ,a man whose face did not swell up like someone covered in giant boils.

Its about him facing a man who has a much greater variety of punches in his arsenal.

Its a simple equation that you don't want to consider because it can only give you one winner MR **** House Tyson.

Stop with the fan boy worship and present a credible case for Frazier winning this fight.
**** or get off the pot.

 

What the **** is a fact sheet? As though that means ****!

Ruddock the one trick pony who telegraphed his smash from the moon and who had a workrate similar to a sloth suffering angina, come on please!

I've given you a reason, Tyson couldn't handle being backed up himself and there's no way in hell Tyson would back Frazier up. Frazier would be on his chest working the body and head like a beast, Tyson either gets him out early or he's in for a painful beating.

 

We agree! Tyson gets him out early!:happy

 

defense and chin are defiently frazier. stop sucking up to tyson. damn

 

No we don't agree at all, I can imagine Tyson trying hard for the early knockout but Frazier would be on him like a shot, in close and getting off first.

 

Yeah Frazier who was such a fast starter.

One trick ponies? What was Frazier? Come forward throw the left hook, reset throw it again ,ad infinitum. Tyson coulndty figth backing up?

Frazier of course was adept at it.

Go to sleep ,you are funny but very limited.

 

apparently everyone had a better chin than frazier. what's next floyd patterson has a better chin than frazier?

 

Go to bed you have no lucid argument and nothing of interest to add .You've comprehensively lost on both the Frazier threads now get used to being wrong.

 

, Joe wanted to come out for the 15th round in Manila and little mikey quits on his stool in the 6th against Mcbride in a fight that he is WINNING. That's the difference between an all time great and a *****.

 

He sure as hell wasn't slow against the fastest heavyweight of all time now was he??

Yeah Ruddock, all he did was throw one shot all night long, hardly giving Tyson relentless pressure was he??

To a man who is clueless like you it might appear that Frazier is a wild swinging one trick pony, the man was brilliant at creating angles to throw is shots, could slip punches better than you think and he had a better inside game than Tyson.

Now go play with your Tyson doll.

 

Frazier took foremans best shots and still got up from all of the knockdowns. If Foreman hit Tyson he would of been out on the first knockdown. Just look at Tyson's history of getting knocked down in a fight. Douglas knocked him down and he never got up, Holyfield knocked him down and never got up, williamson knocked him down and never got up, mcbride knocked him down and then he quit in his corner.Put Tyson in the ring for the last 2 rounds at Manilla at '75 and tell me if he wouldn't quit, hell he wouldnt even be standing.

Joe Frazier was taking a beating so bad he couldn't even see. But what happened: he stayed on his feet the entire time, and as you know the punches that hurt most are the ones you cant see and aren't expecting .and frazier was going to go for another round, but his trainer stopped him.

It's as simple as that. Tyson could never stand up from those bombs Foreman was throwing at Frazier that night. But Frazier shot up everytime.

No way does Tyson's chin come close to comparing to the chin of Smokin' Joe.

 

I dislike the man , but Im objective when comparing fighters you are just a fan boy.

All your posts on Frazier are undiluted hero-worship that do not address his weaknesses and strengths in respective of Tyson's.

They read as if they come from the key board of an awe struck teenager.