Prime Tyson vs Prime Frazier

Everything you write is an opinion and not fact, Tyson having a better chin is very debatable, he was knocked out or stopped 4 times in his career and only one of those fighters could be considered a big puncher, Frazier was stopped twice by probably the hardest hitting heavyweight champion of all time.

All these advantages you reel off for Tyson are wiped out by Frazier's will to win and mentality, the man had way more heart than Tyson and that counts for a hell of a lot comparing these two.

 

Frazier had more heart than Foreman. Look what happened when someone had every physical advantage.

 

All those measurements are facts that totally rebutt the position that Frazier and Tyson were about the same size, they weren't.

Tyson was stopped 4 times 3 of which were when he was well past it, two when he was 38 and 39.

Do you want to think about how Frazier would do against those opponents at 38 and 39? Frazier was stopped twice EARLY . Tyson was stopped after 8rds of a concerted beating. Frazier was dropped by feather fisted Mike Bruce.

Frazier was dropped twice and badly hurt by decent but not great puncher Bonavena.

Those are FACTS not opinions.


Frazier's will to win mentality ,his heart.

Did that get his the wins against Foreman ?
Did it enable him to beat Ali three out of three ?

NO, ALL THEY GOT HIM WAS BEATINGS, THOSE ARE FACTS .

Tyson has all the physical advantages here ,speed ,two handed power, better power, a better variety of punches and 20lbs in weight.
THOSE ARE FACTS .
Now address them, make a convincing case for Frazier instead of being so lazy and trotting out the same **** about heart and will to win.

Frazier would be out of it before he knew what was happening.

 

I didn't ignore your Foreman remark I did not address it because it obviously isnt relevant to this match up. Now do you want to address the fact that Tyson is patently bigger than Frazier in virtually every department.
Do you want to address the fat that Tyson is quicker,hits harder , has two handed power, has a better defence, has a better variety of punches,and is 20lbs heavier? if not don't waste any more of my time , babbling nonsense.

 

No answer came the stern reply.Facts that are incontrovertible and totally rebutt your point of view .
How inconvenient for you?

Now **** off you doughnut. You are wasting decent posters time.

 

:hi:

 

Didn't Tyson weigh 195 pounds at 16 of age or something, and not by being fat?

 

Yes he did.

We seem to have a recent influx of infantile idiots ,I'm just sorting the wheat out from the chaff and deciding which to bother responding to.
Sadly many of the really good posters seem to have deserted us and the replacements are definitely not up to snuff.:tired

 

Frazier went the distance with Jumbo Cummings who Bruno stated was the hardest puncher he fought at around the same age has Tyson was battered by Williams and beaten by Mcbride, Frazier would have a field day with these at 40!

Tyson was knocked out by featherfisted Douglas, Frazier would have eaten those shots off him for 15 rounds if need be, stop writing the same **** about physical stats because they count for little when fighting a warrior like Frazier!