Prime Tyson vs Prime Frazier

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  1. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazier was an overhyped bum who almost got KO'd by the Firpo clone Oscar Bonavena. The only power puncher he faced bounced his head around the canvas like a basketball. Tyson would kill him.

    Tyson was bigger,faster, a two handed puncher, better defence, better chin, better skillset. No contest.
     
  2. abdelfadeel

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    not better chin. only 2 people beat frazier
     
  3. abdelfadeel

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    Frazier was only really stopped by Foreman.There is no shame in that.Tyson was stun by guys like James Tillis who couldnt punch at all.Could anybody explain this to me?
     
  4. abdelfadeel

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    The only people who think Tyson has a better chin than Frazier are Tyson fans who don't know anything about any boxer before 1985.
    Frazier only ever lost to 2 people. Ali and Foreman. 2 bona fide all time greats. Christ, Joe wanted to come out for the 15th round in Manila and little mikey quits on his stool in the 6th against Mcbride in a fight that he is WINNING. That's the difference between an all time great and a *****.
     
  5. abdelfadeel

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    i can guarantee that Ali, Quarry, Ramos and Bonavena hit harder than the guys who KOd Tyson and Frazier took their best punches and wasn't KOd and of all those fighters, only Bonavena could knock him down. Plus, don't forget, Foreman knocked Frazier down 6 times...Frazier got up 6 times. He wasn't even close to being counted out. Anyone who says that Frazier's chin isn't as good as Tyson's is just ignorant of Frazier's opponents or a "Tyson fan".
     
  6. ForemanJab

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    I'm not a fan of Tyson at all but he'd beat Frazier everyday and twice on sunday. I would be astonished if Frazier got out of the 3rd round.
     
  7. Jobo1878

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    I may have misread you post. Apologies if I did. Ali hit harder than Lewis?
    What about Ruddock - who didnt KO tyson?

    Tyson had an exceptional chin, as good as Fraziers - probably better, anyone who disagrees is quite simply a "Tyson Hater".
     
  8. Azzer85

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    Oh my god.....we actually agree on something :yep
     
  9. Azzer85

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    when was Tyson stunned?
     
  10. Azzer85

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    Jerry Quarry 48.48 ko%
    Oscar Bonavena 64.71 ko%
    Manuel Ramos 33.93 ko%

    :lol:
     
  11. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And those percentages are nothing to do with finishing quality are they??

    Tyson wouldn't have took half the punishment Frazier did against Ali.
     
  12. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Quick question, if Tyson needs to take lots of punishment to be hurt then why was he stunned badly in the second round against Holyfield?
     
  13. Azzer85

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    Why would he need to?

    taking 'punishment' normally means you're defence needs tightening.
     
  14. Azzer85

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    Maybe because Holyfield was on PEDS, something which is well known

    i know it must break your heart to hear that.
     
  15. Azzer85

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    Wikipedia

    On February 28, 2007, Holyfield was anonymously linked to Applied Pharmacy Services, a pharmacy in Alabama that is currently under investigation for supplying athletes with illegal steroids and human growth hormone (HGH). He denies ever using performance enhancers.[36]

    Holyfield's name does not appear in the law enforcement documents reviewed. However, a patient by the name of "Evan Fields" caught investigators' attention. "Fields" shares the same birth date as Holyfield—October 19, 1962. The listed address for "Fields" was 794 Evander, Fairfield, Ga. 30213. Holyfield has a very similar address. When the phone number that, according to the documents, was associated with the "Fields" prescription, was dialed, Holyfield answered.[37]

    On March 10, 2007 Holyfield made a public announcement that he would be pursuing his own investigation into the steroid claims in order to clear his name.[38]

    Holyfield was again linked to HGH in September 2007, when his name came up following a raid of Signature Pharmacy in Orlando, Florida.[39] As of September 2007[update], Signature Pharmacy is under investigation for illegally supplying several professional athletes with steroids and HGH.[40]