prime tyson vs Wladimir Klitschko who wins

Who would win 88' Tyson?

 

The question was, why his games went far beyond long-fighters, even though some of them were technically not exceed the average level




You overrate the importance of the chin..Lewis and McBride were also class chinned

 

So what about Lewis? They both won Tyson

 

If you look at the scorecards in those fights, it's clear those fighters were just trying to survive, as Tyson white washed them with all three judges.

The fighters that you mentioned also had a tool that in their arsenal that Wlad just isn't very good at using....uppercuts.

And again, we are discussing a PRIME Tyson, not the one that Lewis beat, and definitely not the one in with McBride.

The fact is, Klitschko has NO chin whatsoever, and will avoid going to war at all costs.

Tyson is just too fast, aggressive, and hard hitting for Wlad to find his comfort zone, and his defense is nowhere near up to par. And the fact that he's too scared to commit to uppercuts early means that Tyson will slip right under his fairly one dimensional offense, and clip his chin.

Lewis used many uppercuts EARLY and they were precise, and he wasn't totaly off balance, goofy looking, and wide open, when he threw them.

Wlad can beat a lot of fighters, but Tyson is not one of them.

Again, he's been down 11 times by BUMS.

 

Tyson would've taken this fight by KO hands down. His head movement, speed and power was to much in his prime. Even in the late Rds I'll still give it to him. I've seen Tyson go the distants a few times in his prime and still manage to win on points.

 

Lewis was a proven great fighter but McBride was a journeyman at best. When Tyson fought Lewis, he was way passed his physical best. When Tyson fought McBride, he was almost 40 and a shell of his former self. There's now way anyone could legitimatelly bring McBride in this argument.

 

Wlad has improved a lot under Steward and is not the same fighter that lost to Sanders and Brewster. He is more patient and has developed a very effective and clinical boxing style. He has looked very dominant now for a long time but this is against vastly inferior opposition.

It's possible that Wlad could win a decision by clinching his way to a jab and grab victory but it's hard to see him not getting hit by something big against such a fast and ferocious fighter like Tyson.

I see Tyson doing well in the early rounds but Wlad finds his rhythm and builds up a lead on the score cards. But while Tyson may get frusrated by Wlad he would not get discouraged and is durable enough to still be dangerous through out the fight. At some point around the 7-9 round Tyson gets through and lands something big and once hurt Tyson goes for the kill and KO's Wlad.

 

I think Tyson was the best time, just too lightweight to be strong enough to wrestle with the Klitschko in close struggle. Klitchko has lost three times by stoppage before the peak time (the only loss because of chin was Lost to Sanders)Tyson lost once by stoppage at his peak and a few times while in recession

 

Klitschko easily!

 

Tyson would overwhelm and KO Klitschko. Not sure what makes you think otherwise.

A more pressing issue to address would be why Wladmir Klitschko is ducking tough, Euro-level talent such as Ustinov, Dimentrenko, Povetkin, Fury, Boystov, and instead feasts on American-level bums and does not even look good doing it. Wladmir should sign with Universum to get the fights which will challenge him.

 

The time between matches was only 2 years, and Tyson was 1 lb lighter against McBride.

Certainly, I acknowledge that Tyson was not even close to the best of those matches

 

Wlad's so called "new style" is nothing more than being cautious and disiplined enough to carry out his strategy of protecting his chin at all costs.

It's exactly why in the RING Magazine, that Vitali got a higher grade than Wlad concerning his tallent. It is because Vitali is far more versatile, tougher, and relaxed than his brother.

He has yet to fight any opponent since Sanders that could exploit this flaw because they are too slow, too tenative, and overall subpar athletes with worse technical abilities.

And please don't tell me about Chambers. Chambers' tactics of standing squared up, straight up and down, occasionaly lunging foward with right hands was absolutely brilliant.

To be honest, I think the best version of Klitschko was the one against Sanders, he was far more athletic and agile than the one we see today, but he was caught. The fact is Klitschko is a chinny fighter, and it makes it very hard for him to deal with pressure once he gets hit hard.

Like you said, Tyson is too fast, and Klitschko just doesn't have enough dimensions offesively to deal with his assault. Once Tyson gets passed Klitschko's jab, there is no uppercut. And if there is, he leaves himself wide open and misses far more than he hits his opponent. This leaves him in perfect position for Tyson to land a counterpunch.

The fact is, Tyson is a nightmare matchup for Klitschko who would beat a lot of heavyweights, but no way he stands up to Tyson.

His brother Vitali would have a much better chance and would likely lose as well, Prime Tyson is a beast afterall, he could very well make it the distance.

 

Yes. Who would win against '88 Tyson?

 

If a fat diabetic Buster Douglas destroys a prime 25 year old Tyson, can you imagine what today's Wlad, under the master strategist Manny Steward would do to that half crazed midget. It would be embarrasing. Wlad would box Tyson from distance, frustrate the maniac and with his two fisted power actually hurt Mike in the early rounds. Tyson would implode like he always did when faced with a real determined man and start biteing, lowblowing, attempting to break arms, etc. like the street punk he was and get disqualified. You all know it but Wlad is Eastern European and, horror of horrors, white so of course he loses to Tyson.

 

wtf is wrong with you? half crazed midget? maniac? show some fking respect.

i can't even begin where to start off with that post. everything is just about wrong there