Prime Tyszu vs current Pacman @140

MAB is better, PAC is better...even though he loss JMM showed he was still better than KT. KT is a great Jr WW. I'm not knocking his accomplishment at all. But I call a spade a spade and he's not the boxer who is as technical and intelligent from a boxing IQ standpoint that JMM is. I mean he lost to Hatton...and even though he was past his prime.....it was HATTON.

KT doesn't have the best D....he's a very solid fighter all around the board but he's not the kind of dynamic fighter that PAC is. Not even close. Anyone in boxing gets tagged from time to time...the best defensive guys avoid it more....but KT showed holes in his defense and most fighters have holes.

And how did I make it up. From my memory Shramba was ahead on the cards going into the round where the fight was halted and it was due to a knee injury that has been well documented.

 

'At 140 Judah is faster than Pac and has more pop'

Is that a ****ing joke? At 140 Pac absolutely destroyed Hatton and looked supremely fast and powerful.

Judah is a B-level fighter compared to Manny Pacquaio. I know people are overhyping/over estimating Pac at the moment but people need to get some perspective.

 

prime for prime, it would be an extremely close fight. tszyu never a flashy fighter, but one of the best well schooled fighters and very strong. pacman, on the other hand, very flashy, but also very strong for his size and brought with him his speed from the lighter divisions.

both have had success vs. bigger, taller fighters (tszyu over forrest in the amateurs, pacquiao over cotto). tszyu was always a slow starter, pacman a fast one. i think pac wins the first 3-4, he becomes very aware of kostya's power who also was a master at timing his punches, and may even be able to floor kostya. sure, phillips was able to finish tszyu, but many was also floored in his career. so supposing their both bring their A games, at their best, like JMM, Kostya's defense is his offense and everytime Pac moves in or out, Kostya most of the time might catch him. Still, to Pac's favor, Kostya did not have the footwork JMM had and was pretty robotic. i think tszyu would make his punches count, land alot less, but get outworked by manny like hatton did with him. i wouldn't be surprised if manny had to take a knee along the way from a well timed short left hook. but if manny wouldn't get reckless and execute a great gameplan roach is great at doing, pacquiao by split decision. a prime kostya tszyu would have his moments, perhaps even a trilogy with tszyu edging manny in a rematch.

 

This Charlievint character really hasnt watched much boxing has he.

****ing ******s on this board i swear to god.

Charlie you would have to be the dumbest **** on here.

You said KT has no Boxing skills. OK. Right No Probs.

And KT is made for Pacman.

You sure its not the other way round. If you have boxed or know boxing.

Orthodox guys with Powrfull Right Hands always and i mean always do very well against Southpaws.

Its common Knowledge.

Tyszu vs Southpaws all time 8-0 all by KO.

And i suggest you go watch every one of those fights.

 

after seeing what pac did with cotto, i'm convinced that he can handle kostya tszyu. 70-30 chance but pac must still be wary of tsyu's power which was really sick.

 

Some ****ers here calim they have boxing knowledge but they don't know ****. Tszyu is a very good solid fighter but he is they type of fighter that manny will destroy easy. his only chance is a punchers chance which is not much cause manny moves in and out and has a great chin, don't even bring up his KO losses when he was a flyweight it only speaks about your little boxing knowledge

 

don't bring up kostya's record against southpaws, kostya has a lethal right hand but pacquiao has a more lethal left hand that comes out of nowhere. check out Pac's record against orthodox fighters why don't you, don't bring up the morales loss, pacquiao wasn't even prime then. pacquiao of today eats morales alive lol

 

But Pacquiao in his Prime had trouble with JMM.

Ive watched Tape on both fighters more than most posting here as both fighters are my favorite fighters.

It would not be as easy as some like yourself are making out.

Tszyu can box anyone thaat thinks otherwise is ****ing stupid.

I mean every medal at amateur level aswell as winning 259 fights there with only 10 losses.

Means guys hear dont do homework means they have only watched highlights of Tszyu.

Both guys can be hit. The Cotto fight showed that aswell as JMM. Pacman isnt the defensive God everyone thinks.

Plus people forget Tszyu cut off the ring better than any fighter below 147 ive seen for a long time.

And the thing about the 8-0 with 8 KO's did you know none of his 10 amateur losses were against any Southpaws.

And would say this. At the lower weights ive never seen a better record or fighter equipped to face Southpaws.

As anyone in the boxing game.

I mean look at the two fights Tszyu was beaten in against guys with in close fighting ability and with great heart. Brawling type guys were Tszyu was gven no room to extend his Power right.

But people also forget he had a massive left hook which he lost due to injury by the time the Hatton fight came around.

Now Pac has great tools also to win. He is fast as anyone at the weights he has fought. He gives some angles not seen before which makes it hard. He has Power in both hands also and i feel his stamina is great with the Pace he sets being tremendous at times. (Thats what did Cotto IMO)

He also has weakness's just like Tszyu ones some Pac fans tend not to say they see. He is not great at all fighting Counter Punching guys. JMM was clear on showing that as was Cotto towards the end of the fight when he was on his back foot.

Now having said all that i can honestly say i dont like picking between the two because they are both my two favorite guys but *******s out there saying its an easy fight. Please.

Tszyu Prime is more dangerous than any version of JMM.

Im trying IMO to give valid points for both men.

 

Great post. I love Pac too it's just the morons trying to discredit Tszyu who **** me off when then don't know anything on the subject.

Not that it should come as a suprise on here though. I wouldn't bother waisting your breath. ******s like "charlievint" will come behind you, state that Tszyu isn't anywhere near the counterpuncher JMM is and boom, he said it so it must be fact. Pointless trying to actually have a discussion.

 

Tsyu is overrated as ****. Pac would get in his ass and I hate pac and his tranny fans right now. Pac is all wrong for Tsyu. I am pretty sure Pac could get in his range and T off on Tsyu. Pressure busts pipes.

 

I am 100% with you *******s on this. I think of the Judah fight and how Judah was able to beat Tszyu to the punch and hurt him early. I dont think Tsyu could tame Pac. Pac has the style to beat Tszyu. A prime Tszyu got knocked the **** out when he got lured into a brawl..

 

Calm yourself "corky". You are begining to sound like a little *****. KT is a great fighter...but so is JMM and for me JMM is more complete than KT. He just has less power and is natrually smaller. MAB and EM are also better than KT. That's not discrediting Zoo. It's just stating what's real. KT is a good boxer with GREAT POWER. But he wouldn't out box JMM, EM or MAB. I'm all for discussions but talking to cheerleaders is like trying to convince a street hooker that she'd be better off with out her pimp. You are all defensive about KT. Stop getting your panties all in a bunch sweet cheeks. I swear........bitches on the rag are the worse.

 

The one thing about Zoo is he's a cool customer. He's able to keep his cool when **** hits the fan. Which was the only reason Zab's superior skills, talent and ability were overcome by a very leathal and composed Kostya. Had Zab been more mature and able to stick to his gameplan he would have continued to smash KT like he did in the first. But that is just credit to Zoo.....but I call a spade a spade and in a rematch I would have went with Zab back in the day. KT didn't want to do a rematch and for good reason. IMO that first round told a lot about the two fighters.

 

LOL.....be easy and calm down there you big dummy! You are gettin all worked up and barking up the wrong tree. You havn't a clue about this sport and it's obvious with your weak ass posts.

You are so worked up about me not sucking KT's dick you are coming up with some ol' bull**** that I neve said. When did I say KT "had no boxing skills" dumb dumb?:huh This is the **** I'm talking about...."CHEERLEADERS"....Look...you can give KT his props but stop with over embelishing what he brought to the ring.

And Yea....KT is made for PAC man. PAC would **** any version of KT up. Hatton beat KT and yea....that wasn't the best version of KT, but he wasn't too far past his physical prime. With his experience he should have wasted Ricky. Stop riding KT's dick so hard to the point your meat hole becomes chaffed! It's sad.:-(

Dude...don't come at me like you know me. If you don't think I've boxed for 12 yrs of my life growing up with a solid AM background then so be it. I'm not here to discuss me.....I'm about boxing. And I don't ride any man's dick. You do enough of that for both you and I.

KT has a powerful right hand but he'd ain't never faught a guy like PAC nor would it be right to really do KT like that. It wouldn't be pretty and I'm sure you wouldn't want to see KT get smashed a lot worse than Ricky got at him.

I've watched almost all of KT's fight besides his early ones and yea...he's a great Jr WW and a very good fighter...but he doens't compare to JMM, EM , MAB and he doesn't desvere to be mentioned in the same breath as PAC at this point.....well....ever. WHO THE **** DID KT BEAT at JR WW THAT MAKES HIM BETTER THAN JMM?

 

wow, for one time you are reasonable here. :good