prime vargas vs prime mayorga

I'd probably say Vargas simply because he's naturally bigger man. By decision that is.

 

The Vargas that beat Bazooka against the Mayorga that had just gone 2-0 with the Viper would be quite a match-up.

I guess it depends on how hard you think each one hit relative to their mutual conqueror (Tito), since both are going to get hit quite a lot with their styles. Somebody's getting put away inside schedule.

 

Vargas mid round stoppage

 

Vargas by ass whuppin.

 

Vargas or Mayorga, late.

Thats all I can say with certainty. Mayo was tougher, the bigger hitter, and the brawls that Fernando often got himself into favor Ricardo for this reason. But Fernando has a much better technical base, and actually has defense, even if it isn't great, its better than Mayorga's.

I think it would depend on how much Vargas decided to brawl. In a toe to toe, bite down on the gumshield war, there just aren't many at 147 or 154 I would take to beat Mayorga outside of absolutely murderous punchers like Trinidad.
When the opponent decides to add more technique and smarts, and has the ability to do so, he gets much more vulnerable.

 

By this reasoning, Mayorga would have to be favoured.

 

Not really. I think Vargas was a pretty strong 54 pounder, and Mayorga wasnt. Vargas had good boxing skills to setup his power when he was at his best, and Mayorga didnt. Mayorga has to be the most overated fighter in boxing because he was able to get into Vernon Forrest's head. Forrest lost those fights mentally with Mayorga, and really we never saw that kind of outcome with another world class fighter he faced.

 

vargas SHOULD win and easily. better schooled, better technique, more power, solid chin before tito and the nut shot festival. i just see him picking apart mayorga at 154, who really was a little chubby for that weight anyway

 

Thats a big call, I dont think anyone really rates him that high to begin with...He might be a bit of an overachiever because he reached so high whilst being so technically raw but there is no doubting his physical ability, it can offset more classically schooled boxers sometimes.
A lot of boxing is mental and it was on Vernon to be professional and deal with that ****, cant take anything away from Mayo he bashed Vernon fair and square in their first bout...and psyched him out enough to edge the rematch (though I personally had Vernon just ahead from memory)

 

Well I agree with this. He probably was a bit of an overachiever. Every gym in the world is loaded with guys that fight this way, and personally I always hated sparring with them, but he probably was one of the most successful wingers ever.
Mayorga just seems to be overated quite a bit and really because of the Forrest fight. We saw a tough brawler that usually came out on the short end in all his other fights and I dont think he was ever close to the level of Vargas at his best.

 

No I think Forrest got caught up and tried to knock out Mayorga. In the process he got nailed. All that other stuff is hogwash