Prime viteli klitchko vs prime Tyson fury

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  1. Grapefruit

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  2. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Vitali is tough but the fury that schooled wladimir beats joshua and wilder with a hand in back
     
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    I see it been close .Klitschko may shake fury on a couple of occasions .Vite may pick up a cut or two but nothing on the scale of the Lewis ft .
    In the end it comes down to the judges .Fury by about 7round s to 5 .
     
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  5. BCS8

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    Vitali.

    And here's why: Vitali, unlike Wlad, is not scared to death to engage. He doesn't have to set up his shots as much, and he's a busier fighter. Vitali can't be mentally wound up like Wlad was (and lest we forget, Wlad had some serious domestic problems at the time) and he'll keep chugging along, wearing the other guy down. He may not hit as hard as Wlad, but he will hit more than him, and in this case, it's what counts.

    Fury simply isn't busy enough nor does he hit hard enough to deter Vitali. TF may have his moments, but I'd expect that by the end of the fight he'd be degraded and in full retreat mode.

    Vitali on points, comfortably.
     
  6. dinovelvet

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    Fury boxes circles around him. The match up is all wrong for Vitali. Boxing is symmetry and angles beat straight lines all day long.
    Vitali wouldn't know what to do in there , plus his skin wouldn't hold up to Fury's fast thudding strikes.

    Chisora isn't prone to cuts and look at the state of his face after 9 nine rounds with Fury who was boxing in cruise control.

    https://i2-prod.irishmirror.ie/incoming/article4722104.ece/ALTERNATES/s1227b/JS51938118.jpg

    Vitali is prone to cuts. His skin is wet paper. Even Kevin Johnson marked him up with a jab.


    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pE-i86-9S6Y/hqdefault.jpg

    Even if you take all that away , you'd have to wonder how Vitali would even land a punch on Fury.

    He throws only 1-2s which isn't going to work on a side to side latteral mover.

    He isn't a pressure fighter.

    He needs space to get his punches off. He can't and won't fight on the inside. He has no defense against big men and keeps his hands down to low.

    Fury has the advantage on the outside and the inside. He deconstructed and out maneuvered the better , more technical K brother in Doustledorff , he'd to the same to Vitali.
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    Add a poll Grapefruit so we can vote and see the results.
     
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    Interesting match up,curious to see replies.
     
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  9. BCS8

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    An old, mentally fragile Wlad who finally got his act together in the 12th was roughing Fury up.

    He had little problem in landing ad lib on Fury in that round. How much more would not a prime Vitali land on Fury? Some (*cough*theusualfckingsuspectDino*cough*) posters make out Vitali is some sort of lumbering dinosaur whereas he's never had problems in landing on anybody, even Byrd, whose defence > Fury's.

    Furthermore, I can't see Vitali getting decked by a guy like Cunningham in a thousand years. Fury's chin is china compared to Vitali's.
     
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    Fury by UD, Vitali wasn't a puncher, Vitali was especially good with those who were less than him, but Fury has more height and reach, and Premier Fury would be faster and probably stronger than Vitali
     
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    Vitaly..
    Vitaly showed competitive against lewis & win round. That shows me vitaly can box & wear man down.
     
  12. Mendoza

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    Now I've read everything. Ok, sure JT, I'm wondering if you believe that or are trying to be humorous.

    Vitali wins easily, likely by stoppage in the mid rounds if Fury wants to fight back a bit.

    It's amazing how much mileage Fury gets from his match with Wlad. He just happened to catch an older champion at age 39 when he was in the best shape ( and in his prime at age 27 ) and won ugly. Wlad really wasn't focused, at least the way he was vs Joshua.

    Vitali likes to engage and has more than enough power to finish Fury, who was floored and hurt by a blown-up cruiserweight. ( Steve Cunningham ) and Cunningham was old and far from a puncher. Fury was also floored by Neven Pajkic, who would not rate as one of the best 20 men Vitali meet in the ring.
     
  13. BCS8

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    Never before has so much mileage been won by such a non-fight such as Fury / Wlad.

    Yes, Fury showed good skills. He had good mobility and was flipping awkward. Let's give him that.

    But he was against a crap version of Wlad, probably on PEDs (given the suspension afterwards) and late in the fight Wlad showed, when he finally woke up, that Fury could be hit, and hit hard.

    A prime Vitali is a whole other kettle of fish and wouldn't be deterred in the slightest by Fury's feints and cute parlour tricks in the ring, mainly because Fury has absolutely nothing to hurt Vitali with. Fury'd be forced to engage, outworked and outscored.
     
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  14. dinovelvet

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    Oh but Wlad was focused. He was 100% focused.


    In fact Wlad was motivated to win that fight more than any other during his entire professional career.

    Here's why-

    1) Wlad never underestimates anybody .

    2) His trainer and mentor - Manny Steward said Tyson Fury was the future HW Champion of the World so he was well aware of his potential and took the fight extremely seriously .

    3) His assistant trainer at the time - Ali Bashir called it a "50/50" fight and warned Wlad how difficult Fury would be.

    4) Breaking Larry Holmes record for title defenses was on the line so it was a huge legacy defining fight for Wlad and WK is obsessed about his legacy #obsessed.

    5) WK desperately wanted to shut Fury's mouth with his fists for all his pre-fight antics.




    The excuse Wlad wasn't 'focused' is almost as sad as the excuse that Wlad lost the fight on purpose.. :laufband::nut:


    Now let me tell you about Fury vs Vitali

    Fury was faster , moved better , had more dimensions and a higher boxing brain. As well as having a height and reach advantage.

    Vitali's game was clubbing guys off from a distance(most of the time smaller than him). He wouldn't be able to do that against Fury who has the better movement , reach and height to control the range.

    Vitali would have to get up in his grill but he wouldn't do that because he doesn't know how to throw short punches in the wheelhouse. His inside game rates zero/10. It was non- existent.
    Fury has an excellent inside game so Vitali is at a disadvantage both on the inside AND the outside. There is no argument at all or him beating a guy like Fury.
    Fury 1-0 against SHW. Vitali 0-1.

    Fury wins. Game over. :polutxoso::chuck:
     
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  15. Mendoza

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    Hey Dino,

    Trevor Berbick defeated Ali ( Ali was 39 ), so does this mean you think Berbick would defeat Lennox Lewis or say, Mike Tyson? Wald was 39 when he lost to Fury.

    Can't you see how silly your analogy and reasoning is? Fury beating Wlad at his age doesn't take away from Wald's career nor does it mean he'd beat more accomplished heavyweights.

    Well-- we know what Tyson did to Berbick, and Larry Holmes badly outclassed Berbick.

    But in your mind, Berbick beat Ali, a guy who many thing was the best of all time, so who can't he beat! LOL
     
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